2016 Postmortem

boston bean

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18. No it doesn't go to what I thought. It's the facts.

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Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:22 AM

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I think a better way to build a more winning coalition is to expand our base [View all] boston bean Dec 2016 OP

It is always good to expand your base if you can but you also have to find a way to keep that base Alekzander Dec 2016 #1

Same error that you're making on the other thread FBaggins Dec 2016 #2

Cater metroins Dec 2016 #3

Yep, exactly. (n/t) benEzra Dec 2016 #42

Exactly NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #53

That too NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #60

i think there are people who didn't vote because they thought there is no way trump would win JI7 Dec 2016 #4

Trump trotted out Bill Clinton's assault victims, whether you believe them or not BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #5

My god boston bean Dec 2016 #6

It's called reality BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #8

It's called misogyny. boston bean Dec 2016 #9

And not being able to reap the full benefits, politically BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #12

Wow. boston bean Dec 2016 #13

So instead of voting for a candidate who had poor sexual impulse control 20 years ago EffieBlack Dec 2016 #20

No, it's even more ridiculous than that. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #21

What really doesn't hold water is we need to cater to women haters because Hillary lost BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #26

If you're using the term "assault victims"... TwilightZone Dec 2016 #16

If "alleged" helps you, fine BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #17

Compared to the e-mail server, they got almost no press. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #19

I think you're still missing something Uponthegears Dec 2016 #37

Well we lost the election - we have to change the message obviously. If we had a winning message we el_bryanto Dec 2016 #7

And trump won on immigration amd terrorism. Hillary won on the economy. boston bean Dec 2016 #11

Well that goes to why you think people voted for Trump el_bryanto Dec 2016 #14

No it doesn't go to what I thought. It's the facts. boston bean Dec 2016 #18

Well deciding between those two options el_bryanto Dec 2016 #22

No. i think some folks are assigning reasons that are not correct or borne out by the facts boston bean Dec 2016 #23

And the facts are that Hillary Clinton was strong on the economy el_bryanto Dec 2016 #25

Point to something facts based that shows that to be untrue. boston bean Dec 2016 #27

This requires a certain amount of research - so will have to get back to you later in the day nt el_bryanto Dec 2016 #28

Ok. boston bean Dec 2016 #29

The question is why people failed to vote for Clinton in the face of Trump el_bryanto Dec 2016 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #54

The problem is getting people off their butts to vote and these same beachbum bob Dec 2016 #10

We don't even need to expand our base. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #15

Our base is fine. It is the Electoral College that screws things up. duffyduff Dec 2016 #24

Even if that is granted for the Presidency (and it can't be because excuses won't cut it) TheKentuckian Dec 2016 #58

Many other people have been saying this also. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #30

I agree, but adding more to this section would also be helpful still_one Dec 2016 #31

those are basically liberal leaning non-voters/3rd partiers forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #32

We need to engage the young people like Bernie did rainy Dec 2016 #33

Hillary ran on a platform to the left of McGovern. forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #39

I didn't hear her out on the trail making rainy Dec 2016 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #55

You'll never win over the diehards of the opposition. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #34

We have to find the Trump voters who are not bigots HassleCat Dec 2016 #35

Yes. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #36

Simple question. Is racism inherent or is it a condition? JCanete Dec 2016 #38

About 3.5% voted for Gary Johnson. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #43

Expand the base and improve turnout. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #45

Simply changing the messenger would do the trick. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #46

Yeah, I think you're right. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #47

Yep. Shelby County v. Holder was a devastating (5-4) decision. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #48

Agreed. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #50

yeah like adding some Chinese hackers triron Dec 2016 #49

"Everyone who didn't vote for my candidate is a bigot" What a great argument. jfern Dec 2016 #51

It's the truth. No intelligent person voted for Trump. NT duffyduff Dec 2016 #52

Okay, so we forget about Trump voters and we've already got the Hillary voters. Who is left? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #62

Hey, it worked great this time, so why not keep doing it? n/t QC Dec 2016 #59

If Trump turns out to be the horror we predict this may be possible ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #57

The best way is to work for higher turnout. Lil Missy Dec 2016 #61