2016 Postmortem

NoGoodNamesLeft

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18. She had really good plans but she did not talk about them enough

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 10:06 PM

Dec 2016

When people say the Democrats ignored those voters they don't just mean Hillary ignored them. The Democratic PARTY ignored them by being more concerned about less important things than focusing on making sure those families weren't hungry and hurting. And an example of that is fighting harder to let people get high for fun legally than giving two shits about rural Americans with little if any resources and almost no local service programs to turn to. Hillary's part in that was less about her policies or intent and more about her husband's role in NAFTA and Trump keeping her off message by being so offensive.

People can stick their head in the sand and leave their ass exposed or recognize the mistakes and learn from them.

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The Dangerous Myth That Hillary Clinton Ignored the Working Class [View all] Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 OP

she worked for everyone, but there DesertFlower Dec 2016 #1

racists and misogynists, which so many are completely ignoring. niyad Dec 2016 #16

that's the thing i can't understand. DesertFlower Dec 2016 #20

no niyad Dec 2016 #22

When you say these people - who are you referring to? nt el_bryanto Dec 2016 #41

The working class ignored Hillary Clinton. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #2

Mind boggling to see liberals parrot this myth. We happily give our opponents BS talking points.. JHan Dec 2016 #3

she talked about, gejohnston Dec 2016 #4

i felt that she talked to me. DesertFlower Dec 2016 #7

I disagree. She talked to them, but not with them. Her other problem was messaging. Exilednight Dec 2016 #10

I don't think that's true. lapucelle Dec 2016 #15

i agree. they covered trump DesertFlower Dec 2016 #21

that's some funny semantics.. JHan Dec 2016 #24

I got to meet Hillary at one of the very first stops on her listening tour in 1999. lapucelle Dec 2016 #47

The problem is that Trump didn't ignore them either, and he won over more... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #5

my late husband always talked about DesertFlower Dec 2016 #8

It's been said here lots mcar Dec 2016 #6

she was more than "qualified". the woman DesertFlower Dec 2016 #9

I will always believe that any man with her resume would have won 400 EVs mcar Dec 2016 #13

same here. DesertFlower Dec 2016 #14

so very true niyad Dec 2016 #17

We have met the enemy pressbox69 Dec 2016 #11

I agree with the factors you listed but a message not resonating with the OhioBlue Dec 2016 #12

She had really good plans but she did not talk about them enough NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #18

She came to my town and I HEARD her talk about jobs for an hour. ucrdem Dec 2016 #23

Which Rust Belt location was that? If not in that area it's irrelevant. NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #25

Did you know that unemployment in MI was 4.7% in October? ucrdem Dec 2016 #28

What, are you Kelly Conway? Why did you ignore the question and deflect? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #43

Repeating RW memes on TV is not helpful ucrdem Dec 2016 #19

and check the word "neo-liberalism" JHan Dec 2016 #27

They finally found a term as meaningless as the DLC ucrdem Dec 2016 #29

yeah, Dems really need to stop reacting to RW memes and set their own media narrative Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author JHan Dec 2016 #26

Agree kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #30

She said it in speeches every day that were not covered by the press. applegrove Dec 2016 #31

I think few outside of the faithful were overly impressed with any plans made she went up TheKentuckian Dec 2016 #42

There are ways in which I think, not Clinton specifically, but the party at large JCanete Dec 2016 #32

She didn't ignore them in the slightest LisiFFXV Dec 2016 #33

3rd way told them to go screw themselves and lost without them jfern Dec 2016 #34

really-- he said that? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #37

Yup. And then got promoted to Senate after Hillary lost 3 of the 4 states he mentioned jfern Dec 2016 #39

WTF, fucking Schumer Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #45

Trump promised everything to everyone. killbotfactory Dec 2016 #35

the Dem voters also chose Hillary as their nominee not just the party. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #38

She had smart plans, but they weren't heard DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #40

Thank you, Fast Walker! FACTS that get lost in the barrage of Bullshite Mt. Cha Dec 2016 #44

Said narrative is being built by the privileged for the privileged. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #46