2016 Postmortem

ucrdem

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23. She came to my town and I HEARD her talk about jobs for an hour.

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 10:14 PM

Dec 2016

And immigration, equal rights, unions, universal health care, the ACA, Obama's record, the dismal Bush presidency, Bill's accomplishments, the toxic political climate, the dangers of a Trump presidency, and the need to work together. And a couple of weeks later I heard Bill talk about working class concerns in the working class town of Compton for another two hours!

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p.s. I don't think either mentioned NAFTA directly but NAFTA didn't kill the US car industry and offshoring started right after the war ended. NAFTA was a net gain and unemployment went down every year for the rest of Bill's term in office. The economy tanked when Junior showed up. That wasn't NAFTA!

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The Dangerous Myth That Hillary Clinton Ignored the Working Class [View all] Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 OP

she worked for everyone, but there DesertFlower Dec 2016 #1

racists and misogynists, which so many are completely ignoring. niyad Dec 2016 #16

that's the thing i can't understand. DesertFlower Dec 2016 #20

no niyad Dec 2016 #22

When you say these people - who are you referring to? nt el_bryanto Dec 2016 #41

The working class ignored Hillary Clinton. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #2

Mind boggling to see liberals parrot this myth. We happily give our opponents BS talking points.. JHan Dec 2016 #3

she talked about, gejohnston Dec 2016 #4

i felt that she talked to me. DesertFlower Dec 2016 #7

I disagree. She talked to them, but not with them. Her other problem was messaging. Exilednight Dec 2016 #10

I don't think that's true. lapucelle Dec 2016 #15

i agree. they covered trump DesertFlower Dec 2016 #21

that's some funny semantics.. JHan Dec 2016 #24

I got to meet Hillary at one of the very first stops on her listening tour in 1999. lapucelle Dec 2016 #47

The problem is that Trump didn't ignore them either, and he won over more... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #5

my late husband always talked about DesertFlower Dec 2016 #8

It's been said here lots mcar Dec 2016 #6

she was more than "qualified". the woman DesertFlower Dec 2016 #9

I will always believe that any man with her resume would have won 400 EVs mcar Dec 2016 #13

same here. DesertFlower Dec 2016 #14

so very true niyad Dec 2016 #17

We have met the enemy pressbox69 Dec 2016 #11

I agree with the factors you listed but a message not resonating with the OhioBlue Dec 2016 #12

She had really good plans but she did not talk about them enough NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #18

She came to my town and I HEARD her talk about jobs for an hour. ucrdem Dec 2016 #23

Which Rust Belt location was that? If not in that area it's irrelevant. NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #25

Did you know that unemployment in MI was 4.7% in October? ucrdem Dec 2016 #28

What, are you Kelly Conway? Why did you ignore the question and deflect? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #43

Repeating RW memes on TV is not helpful ucrdem Dec 2016 #19

and check the word "neo-liberalism" JHan Dec 2016 #27

They finally found a term as meaningless as the DLC ucrdem Dec 2016 #29

yeah, Dems really need to stop reacting to RW memes and set their own media narrative Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author JHan Dec 2016 #26

Agree kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #30

She said it in speeches every day that were not covered by the press. applegrove Dec 2016 #31

I think few outside of the faithful were overly impressed with any plans made she went up TheKentuckian Dec 2016 #42

There are ways in which I think, not Clinton specifically, but the party at large JCanete Dec 2016 #32

She didn't ignore them in the slightest LisiFFXV Dec 2016 #33

3rd way told them to go screw themselves and lost without them jfern Dec 2016 #34

really-- he said that? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #37

Yup. And then got promoted to Senate after Hillary lost 3 of the 4 states he mentioned jfern Dec 2016 #39

WTF, fucking Schumer Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #45

Trump promised everything to everyone. killbotfactory Dec 2016 #35

the Dem voters also chose Hillary as their nominee not just the party. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #38

She had smart plans, but they weren't heard DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #40

Thank you, Fast Walker! FACTS that get lost in the barrage of Bullshite Mt. Cha Dec 2016 #44

Said narrative is being built by the privileged for the privileged. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #46