2016 Postmortem

Yurovsky

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23. No how, no way HRC in 2020...

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:46 AM

Dec 2016

we need new blood, new ideas, and more progressive candidates who don't already carry excessive negative baggage, rightly or wrongly.

I held my nose and voted for her (I'm in a big swing state), even though I'd stated multiple times I would not after the way Sen. Sanders was shafted by the party bosses installed by HRC. Don't ask me to vote for party over conscience again.

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Why all the navel gazing and tortured reflection? [View all] Dream Girl Dec 2016 OP

And even if it wasn't stolen, Clinton performed very well. Orsino Dec 2016 #1

As well as expected I would say... Begabig Dec 2016 #8

Above what? MADem Dec 2016 #24

Above where most people expected him to be... Begabig Dec 2016 #26

His people insisted he was going to win NY and CA. MADem Dec 2016 #29

I was thinking more about what people outside his organization expected... Begabig Dec 2016 #31

winning 2nd in a 2 person race isn't exactly a huge victory NRQ891 Dec 2016 #21

This was another hugely divisive requirement from Sanders. Context only R B Garr Dec 2016 #25

Actually I agree with you! and do think that in spite of all obstacles Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #2

A couple of reasons: TwilightZone Dec 2016 #3

The idea that it shouldn't have been close enough to steal is plain wrong. Dream Girl Dec 2016 #4

And every four years we watch yet another sketchy election... Raster Dec 2016 #6

Yes, this is maddening. We the peeps need to demand fair and secure elections. JudyM Dec 2016 #7

I don't disagree, but it is, sadly, a political reality. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #9

Bingo...that is where the power lies. National senate elections are sexy, but we need to focus on Dream Girl Dec 2016 #11

The only way to move forward is to admit we made mistakes, fix Exilednight Dec 2016 #5

I've been comparing the MichMary Dec 2016 #10

No evidence, but my understandingg is Wisconsin is rotten to the core. Voter Dream Girl Dec 2016 #12

Yup. Voter suppression is REAL MichMary Dec 2016 #15

Claiming the election was stolen is the ultimate form of denial hueymahl Dec 2016 #13

Yep, people claiming stolen election sound as bad as the right did after 2008 and 2012. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #14

It was stolen in Ohio 2004, so that's more than 10 years for that one. Dream Girl Dec 2016 #17

I think there is supression in some states. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #18

Have you been paying attention to what's happened in Wayne county? Dream Girl Dec 2016 #16

Her lead in polling was insurmountable? Yurovsky Dec 2016 #22

I know well what polling is, in fact do it for a living. The insurmountable lead I refer to is early Dream Girl Dec 2016 #30

And outside of the coasts, we've been getting spanked... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #36

If that notion keeps you on an even keel till 2020, it is something to cling to. jmg257 Dec 2016 #19

No how, no way HRC in 2020... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #23

There is absolutely nothing comforting about the rigging. In fact it is quite depressing to think Dream Girl Dec 2016 #28

because six months ago, this party was gloating about the demise of the Republican party NRQ891 Dec 2016 #20

This is so wrongheaded. There was an organized effort by a faction of embittered R B Garr Dec 2016 #27

Gore picked a certified right wing dufus as VP NRQ891 Dec 2016 #32

Nader spent months poisoning gullible people by saying both parties R B Garr Dec 2016 #33

Mistakes were made, clearly. alarimer Dec 2016 #34

'Trying the "Third Way" bullshit to appeal to disaffected Republicans instead of non-voters or' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #35