Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
7. whilst I tend to agree with you on this about many white scholars, Chomsky is actually
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 01:01 PM
Dec 2016

extreme harsh with his racial criticism in regards to the USA.


https://www.democracynow.org/2015/3/3/noam_chomsky_on_black_lives_matter

These issues are very real. There’s more issues here. Racism is a very serious problem in the United States. Take a look at the scholarly work on it, say, George Fredrickson’s study of the white supremacy, comparative study. He concludes, I think plausibly, that the white supremacy in the United States was even more extreme and savage than in South Africa. Just think of our own history. You know, our economy, our wealth, our privilege relies very heavily on a century of horrifying slave labor camps. The cotton—cotton production was not just the fuel of the Industrial Revolution, it was the basis for the financial system, the merchant system, commerce, England, as well. These were bitter, brutal slave labor camps. There’s a recent study by Edward Baptist which comes out with some startling information. It’s called—actually, the title is startling, something like The Half was Never Told [The Half Has Never Been Told], which is more or less true, was never told. But, for example, he shows, pretty convincingly, that in the slave labor camps—the "plantations," we call them, politely—the productivity increased more rapidly than in industry, with no technological advance, just the bullwhip. Just by driving people harder and harder to the point of survival, they were able to increase productivity and profit. And it’s not just the—he also points out that the word "torture" is not used in discussion of this period. He introduces it should be used. I mean, these are camps that could have impressed the Nazis. And it is a large part of the basis for our wealth and privilege. Is there a slave museum in the United States? Actually, the first one is just being established now by private—some private donor. I mean, this is the core of our history, along with the extermination or expulsion of the native population, but it’s not part of our consciousness.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

He also said, "Liberals who didn't vote for Clinton made a 'bad mistake' still_one Dec 2016 #1
Look, I'm no spring chicken... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #2
Bernie's presidential ambitions are over imo NWCorona Dec 2016 #14
I don't think Sander should run in 2020 Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #3
Agreed. NT hueymahl Dec 2016 #9
What the fuck is he talking about 'millitant labor movement' overcame racial conflict in the 30's? bravenak Dec 2016 #4
mixed bag, the AFL was deeply racist, the CIO and especially the Wobblies did help Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #5
It just pisses me off when they pretend all was wonderful and good within labor unions bravenak Dec 2016 #6
whilst I tend to agree with you on this about many white scholars, Chomsky is actually Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #7
That is exactly why I do not understand his failure to remember the war it took to even get bravenak Dec 2016 #11
on this we agree totally(I was a Biden supporter until he decided not to run, then was 1000% Hillary Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #13
But the thing is, this was a launch point where black activists could make change by JCanete Dec 2016 #15
It wont work because the need for human capital has diminished bravenak Dec 2016 #20
As to automation, ABSOLUTELY TRUE. And I was a little frustrated JCanete Dec 2016 #24
I am hoping against hope that Trump will be that common enemy soon bravenak Dec 2016 #25
for what its worth, when I was considering not voting for Clinton, that was my rationale. I'v got to JCanete Dec 2016 #27
I hope we survive to rebuild bravenak Dec 2016 #28
Out of context problem forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #18
"Could have impressed"? forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #19
Gotta disagree here to an extent. forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #17
I agree that it was way better than before but we basically had to start our own unions to get bravenak Dec 2016 #21
He can work to have them vote for him in the next primary. The results will be the same. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #8
I'm finished MFM008 Dec 2016 #10
I did notice that bravenak Dec 2016 #12
Bullshit ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #16
The problem is...many of them don't want hope and change. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #22
I agreed Johonny Dec 2016 #29
They'll migrate back on their own as, one by one, ManBaby's promises disappear. Vinca Dec 2016 #23
Who the hell wants them? Downtown Hound Dec 2016 #26
Go to bed, Noam. You're drunk. MineralMan Dec 2016 #30
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Noam Chomsky: Bernie Sand...»Reply #7