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Takket

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10. he's showing a probability dome
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:28 PM
Dec 2016

the peak of the dome is the most likely outcome, which is the actual vote matching the exit polling data. it is also likely that the exit polling is off by .1% or .2%. Right? Math tells us (by analyzing margins of error in the exit polling data) what a reasonable deviation from the exit polling data would be. If you look at figure 3, the author has made this + or - 2.5%. Meaning that if exit polls said Clinton 50.5%, it is reasonable to assume her actual total will be between 48% and 53%. He calls this the 95% confidence interval. This means that if the election were held 100 times, that 95% of the time Hillary's total would be somewhere in that interval (48% to 53%).

Her actual total of 47.6% falls outside this interval, meaning it is highly unlikely that the exit polling data was that far off.

That being said, there are 50 states, so the concept of a state being outside the confidence interval is not only believable, it is probable. The problem though is that several states are falling outside this confidence interval, meaning that "the odds of this happening are 5%" event is having many times, which is highly improbable. imagine you have 5 white balls and 95 red balls in a bin, and one at a time, you keep drawing white balls but no red ones. pretty unlikely right? The data is basically showing that white balls keep being drawn.

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Bookmarking! Thanks! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #1
Bookmarking underpants Dec 2016 #2
Still don't get this - at 8pm Nov 8 in PA, there were 2613 respondents, and HRC is up. jmg257 Dec 2016 #3
I wish I could understand this stuff. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #4
he's showing a probability dome Takket Dec 2016 #10
You lost me at "probability dome" Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #14
good analogy triron Dec 2016 #15
Are those states falling outside of confidence level Voter Suppression states? tia uponit7771 Dec 2016 #19
That hardly matters since the exit polls survey only voters. Coyotl Dec 2016 #23
"This means that if the election were held 100 times" should be if the poll were conducted 100x Coyotl Dec 2016 #22
Looks like presidency + 2 or 3 senate seats stolen. triron Dec 2016 #5
Yes! This! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #13
Exactly, just enough to alter the balance of power, and in just the right places too. Coyotl Dec 2016 #24
knr triron Dec 2016 #6
KnR! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #7
K & R Coyotl Dec 2016 #8
why are only 28 states shown in figure 1? Takket Dec 2016 #9
I believe that is all the states triron Dec 2016 #11
That's how many unadjusted exit polls were shown election night Coyotl Dec 2016 #17
The evidence that might show up would probably be in the voting machines triron Dec 2016 #12
Enough of the circular firing squad flamingdem Dec 2016 #16
+1, Comey, Voter suppression, Russia... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #20
you got it right triron Dec 2016 #21
knr triron Dec 2016 #18
Edit: "... Unadjusted Exit Poll Discrepancies Fit Chronic Republican Vote-Count Rigging ..." Coyotl Dec 2016 #25
knr triron Dec 2016 #27
"unexplained increases" Republican chicanery against America Achilleaze Dec 2016 #26
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