2016 Postmortem

jmg257

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10. Should still be able to count the actual ballots. They know why the machine counts were off

Reply to Farmgirl1961 (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:40 AM

Dec 2016

but if the number of ballots match the number of voters in the poll books, then the mismatch is understood and the ballots can be hand counted.

"Eighty-seven of Wayne County’s decade-old voting machines broke on election day, according to Detroit’s elections director, Daniel Baxter. He told the Detroit News, which first reported the story, that ballot scanners often jammed when polling place workers were trying to operate them. Every time a jammed ballot was removed and reinserted, he suspects the machine may have re-counted it."

here are three vote totals: the total number of votes the electronic ballot scanners report; the total number of people who signed the electoral roll, or “poll book”; and the total number of paper ballots filled out and stored in sealed containers. The poll books and the electronic ballot scanners do not match, so the paper ballots will be counted by hand. If hand-tallied ballots can’t resolve all the mismatches, the votes will stand in the counties where the errors remain.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/05/us-election-recount-michigan-donald-trump-hillary-clinton

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Michigan officials admit majority of Detroit vote counting machines broke on Election Day [View all] Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 OP

Sounds like vote suppression triron Dec 2016 #1

Sounds like election-fraud. Somebody call the FBI. No, seriously. DetlefK Dec 2016 #5

And tell the FBI that a blog makes a claim without even a direct quote jberryhill Dec 2016 #9

It's not suppression, read what actually happened Amishman Dec 2016 #11

That excuse is BS! Optical scanners "read" paper ballots! So can human eyes! napi21 Dec 2016 #2

Just my first thought also. pangaia Dec 2016 #3

Is there anything we can do to bring media t this in the mainstream media? n/t iluvtennis Dec 2016 #4

If so, is there anything that could be done with that? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #6

I just KNEW somewhere they would claim the machines are superior to the paper trail. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #7

This is insane. How can the national media not cover this story? StevieM Dec 2016 #8

Should still be able to count the actual ballots. They know why the machine counts were off jmg257 Dec 2016 #10

A recount won't help. There are too many votes in the machines, not too few ChetSinger Dec 2016 #12

So what? Electing Hillary is not the primary purpose of the recount. ucrdem Dec 2016 #13