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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
11. Interesting, but you didn't read carefully...
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:10 AM
Dec 2016

Very interesting concept - I didn't know this existed - I like it! However, if you had studied it more closely you would have noticed that the 165 electoral votes (61.1% of the 270 EV needed) have something in common. They are all very blue states and DC:

Maryland 10,
New Jersey 14
Illinois 20
Hawaii 4,
Washington 12
Massachusetts 11
District of Columbia 3
Vermont 3
California 55,
Rhode Island 4,
New York 29,

There are no traditionally red states involved and not one swing state has joined the compact. Can you hazard a guess why that is? Without some of those states involved, there is no way the compact will ever reach 270 electoral votes needed to become effective. And notice how the popularity of the agreement dropped from 70% to 49% after Trump lost the popular vote by a large margin.

State legislatures in Republican and swing states are not stupid. It's clear that if a candidate in the future wins the popular vote, but loses the Electoral College, it is going to be the Democratic nominee, not the Republican. And swing states are not going to give up their place in the sun during the general election process. You really don't expect these folks to adopt something that is not in their selfish best interests just because it would be fair, do you?

The chances of this agreement going into in affect in the foreseeable future are slim and none, with emphasis on the none. It is currently more than halfway to nowhere.

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its time to get rid of the electoral college putitinD Dec 2016 #1
it will never happen, the only hope is to increase the size of the House, and thus the EC Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #21
Well... actually they were concerned that the southern slaveholders wouldn't be Squinch Dec 2016 #2
I'm sure that was part of it. kentuck Dec 2016 #4
We expect 538 electors to vote the way THEY feel? And ignore the populace they represent? jmg257 Dec 2016 #3
The founders thought it was to vote for the electors treestar Dec 2016 #18
we do need to use it or lose it. mopinko Dec 2016 #5
Yep, but the electoral college his unfortuately here to state CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #6
The EC is already more than halfway to irrelevancy ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #7
Interesting, but you didn't read carefully... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #11
Gee, thanks for the unnecessary lecture ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #12
Gee, I would have thought that .... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #14
You were the one boo-hooing about how it was impossible to get rid of ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #15
I'll tell you what, I will give you good odds and make you a friendly bet... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #19
that sounds great ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #20
I hope you're right CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #22
Who cares what the founders intended? portlander23 Dec 2016 #8
There is a prosess for that.."..and we should get rid of it." Nancyswidower Dec 2016 #10
No amendment is even needed ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #13
It really is needed. People just don't realize it because it isn't close enough to take seriously FBaggins Dec 2016 #16
frankly I'd rather have an amendment as well ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #17
The winner take all system should at least be changed. Seasider Dec 2016 #9
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