2016 Postmortem

uponit7771

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30. I'm including Comey because he was clearly in the wrong that's not opinion. Clinton's email

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:24 PM

Dec 2016

... server isn't opinion either but as part of a MAJOR factor relative to what Comey did its not even close.

Clinton's email server infraction was solved as a non crime ... Comey's letter has NOT been solved as a non crime, was sent out 11 days before a national election against agency rules and BOTH side agree that it played some part... how big of a part is in dispute and doesn't matter ... that it played a part means its fucking disgusting in and of itself.

Comey's memo sets a horrible precedence now; any agency head can now just say they're investigating a candidate days before an election and point to Comey as a reason why the shouldn't be prosecuted.

also

Clinton's server is not a agreed upon factor of fact that affected the election but many would say its the M$M covering it 3x more than any other issue being a factor... so email server is a factor that IS in dispute.

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Any postmortem without the mention of Comey, voter suppression and Russia being MAJOR factors ... [View all] uponit7771 Dec 2016 OP

Yeah I can multitask and look at many varied reasons why this year was rough.. JHan Dec 2016 #1

Right, relative to the facts that seems like a distraction too... Clinton's platform was way more uponit7771 Dec 2016 #5

and going with "it's Bernie's fault" narrative because it suits their agenda... progressoid Dec 2016 #9

uh huh JHan Dec 2016 #11

Yet Bernie's whole platform was--Its Hillary's fault! R B Garr Dec 2016 #39

don't know what he gained in going so negative uponit7771 Dec 2016 #40

Agree - and why let GOP off the hook for vote-suppression tactics that should be considered ILLEGAL blm Dec 2016 #2

Don't forget the unceasing and unneeded hearings into about nothing Botany Dec 2016 #3

YES !!! 100,000 million on some fucked up hearings that went no where uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6

But they provided cover for the "Crooked Hillary" meme Botany Dec 2016 #7

Yeap, there's got to be some tactical fight against this from grass roots if the DNC members are.. uponit7771 Dec 2016 #12

Yes, it's no coincidence that Roy Cohn nurtured Trump and Tanuki Dec 2016 #23

It used to be if you were linked to Roy Cohn, the mob, fraudulent scams, and sexual assualt then ... Botany Dec 2016 #24

Agree with all you said! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #4

K&R mcar Dec 2016 #8

Spot on! Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #10

Yeap, with voter suppression 18 isn't looking too good seems DNC can make that a platform issue uponit7771 Dec 2016 #13

Thank you, uponit. Yeah, Reality! Cha Dec 2016 #14

totally agree.... dhill926 Dec 2016 #15

To those three, the media must be added. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #16

And 'social media' c. 3.8 million pre-election Tweets were chatbots ... Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #18

Yes, I think its politico that had an article that there was 3 times as much coverage of her non uponit7771 Dec 2016 #22

Voter suppression GummyBearz Dec 2016 #17

Not so IMO. Without voter suppression she would have won the popular vote by even more. brush Dec 2016 #20

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #36

With the EC in mind VS measures don't have to be widespread just in states that effect the outcome uponit7771 Dec 2016 #21

Don't forget to add KPN Dec 2016 #19

except ALL Dem candidates are vulnerable. The media and GOP are aligned institutionally to Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #25

Already covered here over and over and over but ignore the factors in the OP Justice Dec 2016 #26

Opinion and not fact, the three mentioned are FACT BASED factors not what I or you think about them uponit7771 Dec 2016 #27

BS. They are all fact based ... and you know it. KPN Dec 2016 #41

and misogyny niyad Dec 2016 #28

If you are including Comey then you have to include s mythology Dec 2016 #29

I'm including Comey because he was clearly in the wrong that's not opinion. Clinton's email uponit7771 Dec 2016 #30

The two letters that tanked her 11 days before the elected were based on NOTHING. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #31

+1 YES!!.... the fact that Comey injected himself into the election isn't disputed by both sides ... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #33

Absolutely . . . and if we don't get it fixed or working at fixing the problems liberals will be Liberal In Red State Dec 2016 #32

yeap, we can run the best candidates on the planet ... with voter suppression they win uponit7771 Dec 2016 #34

Pretending it's anything else lets THEM frame the narrative. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #35

Clinton didn't do what she needed to do in the Rust Belt. The other factors KittyWampus Dec 2016 #37

That's opinion, GOP voter suppression efforts are well documented and not in dispute uponit7771 Dec 2016 #38

knr triron Dec 2016 #42