2016 Postmortem

RoccoR2

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13. Joe Lieberman was/is one of those subsets

Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:45 AM

Dec 2016

"I'm a loyal Democrat, but I have loyalties that are greater than those to my party, and that's my loyalty to my state and my country." - Joe Lieberman

How did that workout for us?

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Schumer had one question: Is Bernie coming? [View all] portlander23 Dec 2016 OP

Better Question RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #1

Wow, skilled at flying below the radar lostnfound Dec 2016 #7

Are you talking about Bernie? n/t RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #10

... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #58

Right, and nothing like elevating trivia. elleng Dec 2016 #65

Stop ...... there is no need for your statement . If Bernie does , great it will be his Kathy M Dec 2016 #44

Why ? RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #48

Tis not offensive ( to me ) Kathy M Dec 2016 #59

Be careful what you ask...... HenryWallace Dec 2016 #64

Are you saying today's Dem Party is following the path of the Whigs? RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #67

You might be interested in this from the owner of this website. MelissaB Dec 2016 #80

Yes... Interesting RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #82

nope. sfwriter Dec 2016 #92

Because that D is the most important thing of all LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #96

Ho Hum Me. Dec 2016 #2

Well there aren't many on the left making any news. NWCorona Dec 2016 #24

Why look at you, me. There you go again. Bless your heart. hedda_foil Dec 2016 #119

Interesting. Is Schumer saying we need to abandon "Identity Politics?" jalan48 Dec 2016 #3

The way it's going ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #5

One economic message won't work. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #9

+1 RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #11

I think fracturing our message is why we lost in 2016. jalan48 Dec 2016 #18

No, turnout is why we lost in 2016. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #21

We lost to the worst Presidential candidate ever. What does that say about us? jalan48 Dec 2016 #23

It says that some people didn't take the threat of Trump seriously enough. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #42

Schumer is one of the two most powerful Democrats in Congress. jalan48 Dec 2016 #43

No, he really isn't. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #46

We shall see. jalan48 Dec 2016 #53

"some people didn't take the threat of Trump seriously enough." Uhhh... MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #57

Oh, please. Some of them slunk off to their little corner of the internet... TwilightZone Dec 2016 #81

+++1 berksdem Dec 2016 #89

How quickly we forget about those "Concern Trolls" that didn't join the chorus. jalan48 Dec 2016 #91

absolutely!! berksdem Dec 2016 #93

Amen. It was embarassing, painful, humiliating, all of the above. But we've got to swallow... MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #98

100% berksdem Dec 2016 #99

voter suppression is why we lost. mopinko Dec 2016 #34

I agree with what you say, though it should never have been close to start with. jalan48 Dec 2016 #37

it wouldnt have been. they suppressed 10 times as many votes as we needed. mopinko Dec 2016 #41

I think the point is that the win should have been by 20% or more. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #73

Exactly. If Hillary couldn't beat Trump who could she beat? jalan48 Dec 2016 #97

the flaw in your argument is: JHan Dec 2016 #103

Fair enough, but how can Trump be the most disliked Presidential candidate ever if this is true? jalan48 Dec 2016 #106

She had extremely high positives a few years ago. Then the McCarthyism began. If Bernie Sanders or StevieM Dec 2016 #109

Her unlikeability is really bewildering to me.. JHan Dec 2016 #110

I agree. The media ampped her shortcomings while ignoring Trump's. jalan48 Dec 2016 #111

Yes I think he is, Trump is a Corporatist Wet Dream ----- JHan Dec 2016 #113

Agree .... Kathy M Dec 2016 #45

This promotion of Sanders ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #4

Tough to trust a guy with long track record of looking out for the little guy lostnfound Dec 2016 #8

I isn't a subset of D TwilightZone Dec 2016 #12

Joe Lieberman was/is one of those subsets RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #13

Absolutely misses the point. immoderate Dec 2016 #15

Yes I do see a difference. However RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #19

And Hillary's run? immoderate Dec 2016 #27

Thanks for making my point RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #51

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That speaks for itself RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #70

That would be irrelevant to the point TwilightZone Dec 2016 #17

Yes ...... Kathy M Dec 2016 #47

You said it! Thank you! Bernie gives us the best of ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #31

As Far As I Can Tell Me. Dec 2016 #39

Certainly his votes against the Brady Bill weren't about looking out for us. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #68

Most popular senator among his own constituents. Must be tough to find fault. Nt lostnfound Dec 2016 #117

Not really. Pretty easy actually. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #118

Is party loyalty more important than the public interest? immoderate Dec 2016 #14

All that matters is the team jersey. QC Dec 2016 #16

Under Trump's administration, party loyalty on the D side *is* the public interest. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #20

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Ah, both sides are bad. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #25

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #28

Nope. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #49

Our bankers are better than their bankers? immoderate Dec 2016 #66

If you think both sides are bad, you're on the wrong website. -nt Bradical79 Dec 2016 #114

The Democrats are the party of the public interest ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #38

Public interest is always first ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #30

Sanders is part of the leadership ...... think of it lie a three leg stool Kathy M Dec 2016 #52

I have no problem with his voice ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #61

I understand the " D " part ..... but right now I do not think it is anything Kathy M Dec 2016 #62

I agree! murielm99 Dec 2016 #85

"...Trump essentially co-opted his script..." sfwriter Dec 2016 #94

He used Sanders' script to tie Hillary to big businesses ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #95

she tied herself to big business gator108 Dec 2016 #112

Yet, she won ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #121

"theyll need to reclaim the populism Trump stole in 2016." ucrdem Dec 2016 #6

Goddess save us from white male mentality. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #26

Schumer, Sanders with the smarmy Milbank carrying water. lapucelle Dec 2016 #29

... WhiteTara Dec 2016 #35

I wouldn't read too much into this article. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #55

I repeat WhiteTara Dec 2016 #79

Indeed. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #69

Perfectly said trc Dec 2016 #76

In January Schumer will become of the two most powerful Democrats in all of Congress. jalan48 Dec 2016 #32

"the populist insurgent who nearly beat Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries"... SidDithers Dec 2016 #33

Yeah, Sid, that hit me too. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #36

Takeaway line: "Sanders didnt come." frazzled Dec 2016 #40

its about time I hear those words elmac Dec 2016 #50

+1 Kathy M Dec 2016 #60

So why didn't Sanders go? Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #54

I fear Trump's environmental agenda much more than his economic one paulkienitz Dec 2016 #56

Hillary in hiding, Bernie is the Leader we needed and wanted all along.... joanbarnes Dec 2016 #71

Why didn't Bernie go to the meeting with Schumer? SunSeeker Dec 2016 #74

Why Start Now Me. Dec 2016 #84

That answer would require having read the article. grossproffit Dec 2016 #105

The article does not state why Bernie didn't come. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #115

A leader would have been able to persuade his followers not to vote third party. lapucelle Dec 2016 #116

And the answer to that question turned out to be a big fat NO. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #72

Sigh, "who nearly beat Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries"... no he didn't. The "fake" news uponit7771 Dec 2016 #75

Bernie for 2020! Joe941 Dec 2016 #77

We need vision that focuses on the links between these issues, rather than segmenting them. suffragette Dec 2016 #78

He nearly beat Hillary Clinton? murielm99 Dec 2016 #83

It's going to become increasingly clear with Trump's cabinet that... SaschaHM Dec 2016 #86

Trump didn't steal our populism bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #87

this thread is a prime berksdem Dec 2016 #88

You've got it a** backward frazzled Dec 2016 #104

Lol... berksdem Dec 2016 #120

yeah right rtracey Dec 2016 #90

Does it matter? ymetca Dec 2016 #100

He needs Bernie to teach him how to be a pre-Reagan Democrat. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #108

"nearly beat Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries" LexVegas Dec 2016 #101

"who nearly beat Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries." NCTraveler Dec 2016 #102

We've got Dems who are PROUD to have Wall Street on their side. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #107