2016 Postmortem

hellofromreddit

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104. You're right, but...

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:04 PM

Dec 2016

Check out this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512649961

Now, nothing about my post says Trump voters have to be treated with kid gloves--they're voters, so they do bear responsibility. Tear right on into their idiot president, his corrupt cabinet, and the stupid policy that's certainly coming. But spewing childish, profanity-laden insult after insult after insult, and trying to poison every discussion with a demand that we ALSO hate Trump voters just as much or we're "deplorable lovers" or whatever, has to stop. It was pitiful, but now it's getting in the damn way.

I've got several posters in the thread up above just positive that they know my race/gender/etc. And surprise, surprise, it's a picture of the stereotypical Trump voter. So they're trying to "other" me and mark me as OK to beat up on. I personally don't care about it, but when that kind of stupid clique behavior is unleashed on voters in an election (it was in this one), it costs votes every time.

I'd really like to win the next election for a change.

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You can't win elections if you don't grow up and stop hating voters [View all] hellofromreddit Dec 2016 OP

👌 blue cat Dec 2016 #1

I will decide who I hate and who I don't thank you. leftofcool Dec 2016 #2

Are they planning to stop hating liberals, Muslims, transgenders, gays, feminists, refugees, etc? ck4829 Dec 2016 #3

The Trump voters I know don't hate those people. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #4

Huh. Wish I had YOUR Trump voters around me instead of the ones I actually do. Pholus Dec 2016 #5

No the Democrats need to learn how to be gopiscrap Dec 2016 #23

Said similar stuff back in 2002, I was wrong. Pholus Dec 2016 #47

You're dealing with a much better class of Trump voters than the rest of us are. Paladin Dec 2016 #6

Why were they friends of yours in the first place? MichMan Dec 2016 #10

some folks are pretty much apolitical... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #17

The popular vote doesn't count. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #12

We can lose elections and be metaphorically destroyed ck4829 Dec 2016 #18

Yes, they do... SidDithers Dec 2016 #21

Oh? Why didn't you warn everybody about Clinton's impending loss before it happened? hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #46

Because I didn't believe that so many voters were racist and sexist assholes...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #49

95% of Trump voters hate Obama (according to PPP) sound like you know the other 5%? LOL bettyellen Dec 2016 #28

Could it be that because you're a white liberal? Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #76

Or a skirt. Always funny when white guys think they'll sniff out racism and sexism better than bettyellen Dec 2016 #91

The ones I know don't hate anyone either, and certainly aren't racists NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #84

well we could DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #103

While it still boggles my mind to see the attitude and hate of the most rabid Trump supporters, Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #7

And can both feel sorry for them and not want them in my party EffieBlack Dec 2016 #11

Totally with you on that one! Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #14

I say FUCK any Trump supporter gopiscrap Dec 2016 #24

There's a distinction between what politicians should say, and what the truth is. DanTex Dec 2016 #8

About the deplorable thing Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #77

Trump hated a lot of voters. Loud and Proud about it for nearly a year. well... what say you now! boston bean Dec 2016 #9

Who is your role model? hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #13

And that's the biggest reason he got votes JI7 Dec 2016 #16

fuck racist deplorables JI7 Dec 2016 #15

They are racist MFM008 Dec 2016 #19

well said gopiscrap Dec 2016 #25

Ty MFM008 Dec 2016 #26

ur welcome! gopiscrap Dec 2016 #67

... GummyBearz Dec 2016 #48

They've just enrolled in Trump University. They have an education coming. They won't be Squinch Dec 2016 #56

I notice you have His Holiness as your avatar. Coventina Dec 2016 #20

There is plenty of space between condoning behavior and hatred. SpareribSP Dec 2016 #22

Well, I outright reject the OP's premise that Clinton's campaign "ginned up hatred." Coventina Dec 2016 #27

I think this OP is trying to gin up hatred. bettyellen Dec 2016 #30

Agreed. n/t Coventina Dec 2016 #33

Not hating people right back isn't the equivalent of condoning their failings. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #37

I am not interested in "talking Buddha" with you, since you apparently don't know anything about Coventina Dec 2016 #38

+1 zappaman Dec 2016 #42

I see a lot of accusations there. Did you perhaps stereotype me? hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #44

You are adorable. I never said what YOU are accusing me of saying. Coventina Dec 2016 #45

You'd like us to kiss the asses of selfish bigots? I'm guessing your neither a woman or POC and its bettyellen Dec 2016 #29

Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that. SpareribSP Dec 2016 #31

Show me where Trump voters have been subjected to hatred. Please, I'd love to know. Coventina Dec 2016 #36

How about SpareribSP Dec 2016 #41

If we're measuring mean posts on the internet, I would advise you check SPLC. Coventina Dec 2016 #43

SPLC buried 2000 reports of anti-Trump hate. TupperHappy Dec 2016 #65

I can't find a reputable source for this? Appears to be made up by RW media. bettyellen Dec 2016 #72

Can you substantiate your claims, lest you be accused of just making it all up? synergie Dec 2016 #80

Along these lines, here's some food for thought Dems to Win Dec 2016 #51

Great article! SpareribSP Dec 2016 #54

You have to admit it, something was mighty queer about this election UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #32

Having grown up in and currently living in red country... Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #34

+1 hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #60

Hillary lost the electoral college (presumably) because... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #35

I agree 100% SomethingNew Dec 2016 #39

Pointing fingers and shouting 'Racist!" may feel good, but it sure doesn't win votes Dems to Win Dec 2016 #53

You can't win elections if you don't grow up and stop hating voters NCTraveler Dec 2016 #40

Bad premise. They hate voters, and they won. unitedwethrive Dec 2016 #50

Deplorable dumbasses have to learn where their bread is buttered. nt oasis Dec 2016 #52

This is a fallacy from start to finish. Squinch Dec 2016 #55

+100 I'm with you! I cannot believe the person who wrote the OP has the nerve to say skylucy Dec 2016 #58

You know I didn't write the OP, right? It's a little confusing the way you worded that. Squinch Dec 2016 #69

I'm not sure why I worded my response that way! It is confusing. I will try to edit. skylucy Dec 2016 #117

No problem at all! I just didn't want you to associate me with that drivel. Squinch Dec 2016 #120

Wow. Your reply IS a fallacy from start to finish! hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #81

I am the voice of the Democratic party? Thanks! I had no idea I had such power. Squinch Dec 2016 #109

"The imbeciles in the country rose to the challenge." NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #86

Their economic distress and unresponsive government result in decades of local Republican rule LonePirate Dec 2016 #57

Yes. Their economic distress is the result of THEIR OWN VOTING CHOICES! Squinch Dec 2016 #70

No, Real Democrats need to get off their asses and VOTE!!!!! calguy Dec 2016 #59

No, No, No! Not going to normalize Trump nor the people who voted for him. Fla Dem Dec 2016 #61

Economy had NOTHING to do with it. It was all about the "illegals," the Muslims, the blacks, duffyduff Dec 2016 #64

This goes to some of what I've been feeling post-election. lovemydog Dec 2016 #62

That worked so well for President Obama. He tried playing nice and listen to the Republicans. Fla Dem Dec 2016 #66

I'm talking about personal interactions lovemydog Dec 2016 #71

You have no clue what happened in this election. duffyduff Dec 2016 #63

Sure I do. Democrats gave it to Trump. Practically in a walk. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #75

You can't win elections if you don't support the candidate ucrdem Dec 2016 #68

I wish the title was true NobodyHere Dec 2016 #73

Trump didn't hate on voters. Not exactly, anyway. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #79

So he encouraged rally goers to beat protesters in a loving way? bettyellen Dec 2016 #89

Obviously not what I said. All the text is there, feel free to reread as many times as you need. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #92

The text ignores calling Mexicans rapists, calling for women to be punished for abortion and bettyellen Dec 2016 #97

For the millionth time, Clinton won among those for whom the economy is the top issue. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #74

The economy includes TRADE and JOBS, and Clinton LOST those issues in the Rust Belt NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #82

They also believe that unemployment rose under Obama BainsBane Dec 2016 #88

NO ONE SAID THEY MATTER MORE for CHRIST SAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #93

Are you fucking kidding? BainsBane Dec 2016 #95

Since when is economic justice not party of social justice? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #100

Not only are they Democratic values BainsBane Dec 2016 #116

Not to mention Trump is a free trader. Trump's businesses send jobs overseas. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #101

Exactly BainsBane Dec 2016 #112

Uh, racism is a huge deal in northern states. Huge! Garrett78 Dec 2016 #96

Those previously reliably BLUE states full of Democrats are all racists now? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #102

You don't see a lot of racism because you don't see a lot of POC. bettyellen Dec 2016 #108

That's why the first daylight KKK parade took place in Main. Revanchist Dec 2016 #123

Do you mean Maine? My home state ironically. NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #124

You're wasting your breath...they are blind to reality NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #78

So the polls that said voters preferred HRC on economics should be ignored in favor of what county bettyellen Dec 2016 #85

The Rust Belt...you know, those shoulda been blue states Trump won NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #94

Has CNN earned your trust lately? They present the narrative they planned to before they arrive in bettyellen Dec 2016 #113

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #90

I'm normally like that, but I've had it with this nonsense NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #99

No, you're supposed to hate Democratic voters BainsBane Dec 2016 #83

best post I've read this year Locrian Dec 2016 #87

There are people that would never dream of passing by a fellow human being who is suffering baldguy Dec 2016 #98

You're right, but... hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #104

Trump represents an ideology that kills people. The tools to be used are his supporters. baldguy Dec 2016 #105

How refreshing to read a post like this that is so logical, so constructive, and so blatantly true mtnsnake Dec 2016 #106

What I WANT to say would get me banned resistance2016 Dec 2016 #107

I am especially concerned about the stuff being thrown at the younger crowd. Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #110

I work with a Trump voter too. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #111

Another lecture about how bad Democrats are. If I wanted someone to nag me all the time betsuni Dec 2016 #114

It seems to me the first thing to do would be try and appeal to the Gary Johnson voters. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #115

Izzat so, hellofromreddit? Hekate Dec 2016 #118

Funny you should say that, cuz that's exactly what Trump did. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #119

I beg your pardon, but with enough money you can, and here we are. Orsino Dec 2016 #121

Excellent post. Thank you. George Eliot Dec 2016 #122