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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: 'Member Obama in 2008? [View all]

Buckeye_Democrat

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18. She talked about campaign finance reform.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:36 PM
Dec 2016

I never claimed that she didn't.

Trump talked about it too, blathering about how he was so rich (lol) that he didn't need money from big donors.

At least most Democrats (like me) believed that she'd tackle the problem more effectively, but a significant percentage of Democrats didn't show strong confidence:

About four-in-ten Democrats who supported Clinton in the Democratic primary are not sure she would be the best candidate to reduce the influence of lobbyists and special interests: 57% say she would do the better job on this issue, while 22% say Trump would do better and 16% volunteer that neither would. Views among Democrats who supported Bernie Sanders in the primary are little different: 46% think Clinton would do the better job, while 27% think Trump would and 23% volunteer that neither would.


Whatever the reasons, that poll indicated that more Americans believed Trump over her. Did Sanders' campaign, showing contrast to Clinton with his small-money donations, play a role? Maybe.

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'Member Obama in 2008? [View all] Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 OP
2008 was a different time than 2016. 2008 was far more favorable for democrats JI7 Dec 2016 #1
Running against Trump is about as favorable as someone can get. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #2
look at the people elected to congress. establishment complaints were mostly JI7 Dec 2016 #4
How is it you can't understand that there is a difference BainsBane Dec 2016 #3
And they ignore feingolds loss JI7 Dec 2016 #5
Clinton beat Trump on "making wise trade policy decisions" in that same poll. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #7
I agree that many Americans are stupid and gullible. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #6
fdr was before civil rights JI7 Dec 2016 #8
And Obama was elected after civil rights. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #9
in a different environment but with same groups that supported Clinton JI7 Dec 2016 #10
He also remained just as "favorable" in the 2016 CNN exit polls as he did in 2012. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #13
Obama is a unique rate politician and there is nobody else like him JI7 Dec 2016 #14
Yeah, because the opinions of voters who think Obama is a Muslim BainsBane Dec 2016 #16
He lost some appeal to me with that appointment. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #17
Because you equate the 2008 and 16 elections as though they were comparable BainsBane Dec 2016 #15
She talked about campaign finance reform. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #18
Trump didn't win. Trump fixed the central vote counting machines with Putin's help UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #11
I sincerely hope that's the case and it's proven to be true. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #12
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