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2016 Postmortem

vi5

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2. A failure of strategy and not messaging....

Reply to Red Oak (Original post)

Mon Dec 12, 2016, 08:46 AM

Dec 2016

We won the popular vote. More people agree with us and our message.

The margin of loss in the key states that we assumed we would win but didn't was minimal.

Our margin of victory in blue states was large.

I live in a blue state(NJ( and saw tons of advertising, tons of canvasers at my door, people offering to take others to the polls.

If some of those resources had been sent from a sure thing state like mine to a less than 100% state like Wisconsin or Florida or Michigan or any of the others that Obama won but HRC lost, then none of this would have been an issue.

Too many assumptions were made that were wrong. Next time out let's not make those assumptions, and we should be fine.

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Dems grapple with lessons from Clinton disaster [View all] Red Oak Dec 2016 OP

Russia hacked the DNC and John Posdesta.... I don't think those affected the election 4139 Dec 2016 #1

A failure of strategy and not messaging.... vi5 Dec 2016 #2

"Too many assumptions were made that were wrong"... I seem to recall 4139 Dec 2016 #3

Your analysis is only partially correct. Messaging matters BIGTIME!!! RBInMaine Dec 2016 #5

But our platforms and policies help those people. vi5 Dec 2016 #8

I'll go a step further and say there was no message. Exilednight Dec 2016 #14

Stronger Together? kudzu22 Dec 2016 #19

I only heard that dropped during the convention, and it really Exilednight Dec 2016 #21

Russia Hack !! Not Sanders, Not Clinton ... not none of that shit, Russia hack all else is bullshit uponit7771 Dec 2016 #4

No. The party has been in serious decline for a while with SHITTY organization and messaging. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #6

Opinion, the Russia Hack, Voter suppression and Comey is fact... fuck Opinions over fact uponit7771 Dec 2016 #10

Here's a few more facts. Exilednight Dec 2016 #15

How did russia hacking the DNC and Podesta swing the election ? 4139 Dec 2016 #7

It doesn't matter how it did the fact that it did at all is actionable enough. I'm not accepting FUD uponit7771 Dec 2016 #11

Impression... My question to you is how didn't it? If you're answer is I don't know then that's uponit7771 Dec 2016 #16

Nearly a 3 million popular vote margin isn't a disaster. Coyotl Dec 2016 #9

The Trump Disaster. Orsino Dec 2016 #12

America has changed a lot in the last 25 years, the Clintons have not Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #13

are we allowed to say STFU here? nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #17

we *are* allowed to "let it sink" nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #18

Yes melman Dec 2016 #22

There was no "Clinton" disaster. duffyduff Dec 2016 #20

Too much victim blaming happening here. baldguy Dec 2016 #23