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2016 Postmortem

Orsino

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12. The Trump Disaster.

Reply to Red Oak (Original post)

Mon Dec 12, 2016, 12:14 PM

Dec 2016

Clinton bears some responsibility for the loss, but I would name it after someone else.

The country capable of electing Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger was going to be vulnerable to any televised airhead.

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Dems grapple with lessons from Clinton disaster [View all] Red Oak Dec 2016 OP

Russia hacked the DNC and John Posdesta.... I don't think those affected the election 4139 Dec 2016 #1

A failure of strategy and not messaging.... vi5 Dec 2016 #2

"Too many assumptions were made that were wrong"... I seem to recall 4139 Dec 2016 #3

Your analysis is only partially correct. Messaging matters BIGTIME!!! RBInMaine Dec 2016 #5

But our platforms and policies help those people. vi5 Dec 2016 #8

I'll go a step further and say there was no message. Exilednight Dec 2016 #14

Stronger Together? kudzu22 Dec 2016 #19

I only heard that dropped during the convention, and it really Exilednight Dec 2016 #21

Russia Hack !! Not Sanders, Not Clinton ... not none of that shit, Russia hack all else is bullshit uponit7771 Dec 2016 #4

No. The party has been in serious decline for a while with SHITTY organization and messaging. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #6

Opinion, the Russia Hack, Voter suppression and Comey is fact... fuck Opinions over fact uponit7771 Dec 2016 #10

Here's a few more facts. Exilednight Dec 2016 #15

How did russia hacking the DNC and Podesta swing the election ? 4139 Dec 2016 #7

It doesn't matter how it did the fact that it did at all is actionable enough. I'm not accepting FUD uponit7771 Dec 2016 #11

Impression... My question to you is how didn't it? If you're answer is I don't know then that's uponit7771 Dec 2016 #16

Nearly a 3 million popular vote margin isn't a disaster. Coyotl Dec 2016 #9

The Trump Disaster. Orsino Dec 2016 #12

America has changed a lot in the last 25 years, the Clintons have not Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #13

are we allowed to say STFU here? nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #17

we *are* allowed to "let it sink" nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #18

Yes melman Dec 2016 #22

There was no "Clinton" disaster. duffyduff Dec 2016 #20

Too much victim blaming happening here. baldguy Dec 2016 #23