2016 Postmortem

ZoomBubba

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11. Clinton and Trump ...

Mon Dec 12, 2016, 04:19 PM

Dec 2016

... were historically unpopular from the get go. Clinton had a wide lead that kept narrowing and was already very narrow by the time Comey came out with his news on the emails. I'm am still not certain that Comey keeping it to himself would've made a difference ... it was that close.

I would actually blame Bernie Sanders' primary campaign for doing the most damage. That non-Democrat running for the Democratic nomination divided the party and turned it on itself. It still hasn't recovered. Had he quit when it was obvious he was going to lose, like in March, then the party would have had a chance to pull together. But he instead stepped up his attacks and poisoned the minds of his followers to the point where they protested the Democratic nomination, even while he was saying "fall in line." Many of those protesters said "I would rather Trump be president than Hillary."

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Reid blames Comey for Hillary Clinton's loss [View all] yallerdawg Dec 2016 OP

IMO it's blatantly obvious that Comey swayed the election and the timing is "highly" suspicious! nt RKP5637 Dec 2016 #1

Wasn't Reid part of the "Gang of 12" this summer? SHRED Dec 2016 #2

This was no secret. Everyone knew it. We don't "know" what they did. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #4

That oversimplifies it ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #3

Elections turn on the last thing a voter remembers in the booth. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #5

I think that this is the December surprise HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #7

For some of us, the surprise will be... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #10

Clinton and Trump ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #11

Election Night no reputable polling had indicated Corrupt Trump could win. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #14

I hope in 2020 ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #18

Its factually and empirically provable that Comey brought down HRC's numbers ... what he did was uponit7771 Dec 2016 #23

HRC's numbers were already low ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #33

That's like saying "the ref who tripped the player on purpose didn't cause the team to lose... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #34

Woah ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #36

Bullshit. Comey swung the election to Trump, and if you think Clinton's campaign had 999 . . . brush Dec 2016 #28

So? ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #35

Wrong again. It's simple, Comey and Putin are the only reason Trump won. brush Dec 2016 #37

That's very simplistic ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #38

I can't take you seriously either if you can't see what everyone else sees. It's not that . . . brush Dec 2016 #39

Apparently they didn't ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #40

Yeah, yeah, downplay it if you want, but the Comey letter was the deciding thing. brush Dec 2016 #41

Now you're trying to attack me ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #42

Concede to this. brush Dec 2016 #43

An opinion is an opinion ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #44

Nate Silver made a similar remark. JaneQPublic Dec 2016 #6

To my mind... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #8

Comey is a Republican. SHRED Dec 2016 #9

But he's not a Russian. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #12

okay...now I get what you were saying SHRED Dec 2016 #13

Maybe he did once. No more. And not a peek from him since. Must be in hiding, ashamed that . . . brush Dec 2016 #29

What Comey did was illegal, I think it was in response to Obama request for bipartisan statement uponit7771 Dec 2016 #24

When that letter hit, Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #15

I am not an idol worshipper - Hillary was simply the best... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #17

Was a Bernie oganizer until we Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #20

The follow up hurt her instead of helping her. LisaL Dec 2016 #26

I agree with him get the red out Dec 2016 #16

Comey IS the culprit. He has marked his place in U.S. History. oasis Dec 2016 #19

It was treason IMO mvd Dec 2016 #21

Comey/Republican Operative jaxind Dec 2016 #22

Well, exactly. LisaL Dec 2016 #27

I think it's pretty obvious that Reid is correct on this. LisaL Dec 2016 #25

Reid's weakass leadership all these years hurt her, as well. JudyM Dec 2016 #30

Comey reinforced the innuendo that had brought Clinton to the mid 30's in favorability andym Dec 2016 #31

Reid is telling you to investigate Roger Stone....... UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #32