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2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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27. I think it was a combination of bad strategy AND theft

Reply to Dream Girl (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 12, 2016, 07:37 PM

Dec 2016

Strategic mistakes(which were the same mistakes our party USUALLY makes in the fall, and for which I don't the nominee) kept the contest close enough for theft to be possible.

And I don't see any contradiction between believing that our strategy could have been better and could be better in the future and ALSO believing that we were cheated out of victory by nefarious forces.

It's not binary.

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Would it really be that terrible to make our 2020 message something like THIS: [View all] Ken Burch Dec 2016 OP

"Here" as in DU, or "here" as in USA? MADem Dec 2016 #1

Unfortunately, war will never be a thing of the past...but saying it should be the LAST resort NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #2

"Standing against oppression" is not a message that will motivate the middle of this country Maven Dec 2016 #3

Thanks for the response. n/t. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #6

That won't appeal to the Fox News crowd oberliner Dec 2016 #4

well I see no set of circumstances in which we would get the Fox News Crowd anyway el_bryanto Dec 2016 #10

Good point oberliner Dec 2016 #14

That will be our message. Right now a lot of people here realmirage Dec 2016 #5

Maybe more people will get on board in 3 or 4 years. DemocraticWing Dec 2016 #7

2020? demon in basement Dec 2016 #8

Depends if we want to win or not...a message like that will not be a winning won. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #9

More navel gazing Dream Girl Dec 2016 #11

You figure it out and get back to us if we're still here Dream Girl Dec 2016 #12

You are actually coming up with positioning statements for the Dem party? Dream Girl Dec 2016 #13

I agree that the election results were dirty...but what are we supposed to do? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #17

What I'm reacting to is the assumption that our lose was due to strategy. Dream Girl Dec 2016 #20

*This* brer cat Dec 2016 #24

I think it was a combination of bad strategy AND theft Ken Burch Dec 2016 #27

The GOP tried to steal it from Obama, and did steal it from Gore and Kerry. That Guy 888 Dec 2016 #29

Terrible. Terrible I tell you. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #15

I was just looking for a unifying thing. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #16

"We can't win by saying anything Republicans would say." NCTraveler Dec 2016 #19

You wouldn't...but some would. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #28

People just want to hear that you will help make their lives and those of their neighbors better andym Dec 2016 #18

It has to be a simple one sentence message pstokely Dec 2016 #21

You should run on that! JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #22

Sounds like a John Lennon song. George II Dec 2016 #23

lol brer cat Dec 2016 #25

We could live with that but at least half the country could not..... bowens43 Dec 2016 #26

Too many words, dude. Remember who your audience is: the American voter. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #30