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2016 Postmortem

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triron

(22,240 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 11:45 PM Dec 2016

Something has gnawed at me since the election day. [View all]

My observations in a nutshell:
Democratic Underground was taken down by some mysterious hackers on the afternoon of Nov 8 (election day). I was posting things as I read about both "exit poll results" and early election returns. I was also watching Predictwise, especially state by state probabilities change as the day went on. Just about the time DU went down Hillary had reached a peak of 97% chance of winning Florida. North Carolina, and notably Ohio were steadily increasing. All of a sudden (unbelievably sudden) the probabilities for her win in Florida dropped precipitously. It was bizarre. Other swing states followed suit (North Carolina and Ohio notably). Now all of this other shit has come out about the Russian interference; in addition to strenuous efforts by Wisconsin and Pennsylvania (including Trump camp) to prevent forensic examination of the voting machines where they were used. Michigan just flat out obstructed any recount. Additionally cyber experts and other scientists concluded the nearly mathematical impossibility of the variation of the actual vote vs the raw exit polls (24 out of 28 went toward benefiting Trump--less than 1 out 13000 chance of this happening randomly) from CNN.

That's why I am convinced someone mucked with the ev counts in many swing states and probably tried to in others. However, they may have covered their tracks very well.

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K&R, triron.. Thank you! obviously so easy to hack.. look at the Cha Dec 2016 #1
Thank you for this. YES!!!! LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #2
Thank you. triron Dec 2016 #4
Think of his mug hanging somewhere in every schoolhouse... Beartracks Dec 2016 #7
As much of,a scumbag he is, jailing political enemies is,what fascists do... dionysus Dec 2016 #11
If he is guilty of treason or some related federal felony. triron Dec 2016 #22
Well, yes, in that case for sure... dionysus Dec 2016 #42
No Abouttime Dec 2016 #34
Yes triron Dec 2016 #37
My bones tell me the same thing. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #18
yes MFM008 Dec 2016 #29
"But... but... exit polls are just guesstimates and can be wrong!!!11!!" Beartracks Dec 2016 #3
as was EVERY poll before that, and editorial board... LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #5
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #12
That must have been when they flushed all those early votes down the crapper. ucrdem Dec 2016 #6
I was watching the whole thing unfold on 538... C Moon Dec 2016 #8
DU going down was not a coincidence. tinrobot Dec 2016 #9
+ 1 Achilleaze Dec 2016 #16
Election officials, or repub Secretaries of State who were bribed unitedwethrive Dec 2016 #10
Agree! Russians are involved. They did this with foreign computer experts UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #13
Completely agree. Did any other Dem site go down on election day? Do we know who took down DU? Justice Dec 2016 #14
this. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #20
Yes voteearlyvoteoften Dec 2016 #15
I agree Bettie Dec 2016 #17
I could have written your last sentence. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #19
Right there with you. Bobbie Jo Dec 2016 #21
k and r niyad Dec 2016 #23
You are not alone. kydo Dec 2016 #24
Kick triron Dec 2016 #25
I watched as people asked ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #26
Even the exit polls missed them. triron Dec 2016 #28
KnR sheshe2 Dec 2016 #27
the first alarm bells that went off for me MFM008 Dec 2016 #30
Greg Palast triron Dec 2016 #31
Yes that bit about Virginia was about when I turned radio off - deja vu (2004) all over again Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2016 #36
Yup MFM008 Dec 2016 #41
YESSSSS.... thank you - I had same "wtf" reaction - not only du going down, but then morning after Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2016 #32
yes; we need all paper ballots, all hand-counted, all the time. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #33
+ 1000 n/t MBS Dec 2016 #35
I feel the same way as in all of 30 seconds Hillary 400,000 vote lead in Florida vanished... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #38
My recollection is about 70% of the voters triron Dec 2016 #39
Also wasn't this about the same time DU went down?? triron Dec 2016 #40
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