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2016 Postmortem

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)

28. Guns, taxes

Reply to BlueCaliDem (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:47 PM

Dec 2016

Guns are a constitutionally guaranteed right, and we need to support the constitution. We need to face up to the reality that laws such as the assault weapons ban are ineffective, and only piss off gun owners. Most of them can live with expanded background checks, so let's focus our attention there.

Instead of talking about how we plan to increase taxes for high income earners, let's talk about lowering taxes for the working class, or shifting some of the tax burden off the middle class. Voters would appreciate that far more.

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Trump received the most votes of any .... [View all] okieinpain Dec 2016 OP

You have to get the right people in the right states to vote. Exilednight Dec 2016 #1

Yup, geography matters Amishman Dec 2016 #3

i think the voter suppression played okieinpain Dec 2016 #8

Voter suppression made a huge difference. SharonAnn Dec 2016 #9

Right. It's always refreshing to be reminded that we Californians scarcely matter, because Idaho. Hekate Dec 2016 #16

No, not just ID. former9thward Dec 2016 #20

You need better sources , try this one for instance pkdu Dec 2016 #27

Not being sarcastic. former9thward Dec 2016 #30

Your Math sucks...trying reading what I posted pkdu Dec 2016 #31

You don't understand math, I understand... former9thward Dec 2016 #35

Blame the Founders for that. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #29

The only way for a Democrat to win the presidency again, is to shift to the RIGHT BlueCaliDem Dec 2016 #2

Shifting to the right is an overstatement ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #5

i'll give you some right shifting. guns and pro-choice okieinpain Dec 2016 #6

Don't you dare give away my constitutional right to own my own body! Don't you dare! SharonAnn Dec 2016 #10

I don't think he's saying that ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #19

Should we make Slavery and segregation a "States Rights" issue, too? Women's right to vote? SharonAnn Dec 2016 #11

I don't think he's saying that ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #21

i agree whole heartly. to much time and effort goes okieinpain Dec 2016 #23

Guns, taxes HassleCat Dec 2016 #28

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #4

agreed. n/t. okieinpain Dec 2016 #7

Isn't there a contradiction there? brush Dec 2016 #12

lol, no contridiction just worded wrong. okieinpain Dec 2016 #13

lol and after reading about michigan i'm pretty sure i'm right. n/t. okieinpain Dec 2016 #14

Still seems like a contradiction. She got nearly 3 million more but didn't get out enough votes? brush Dec 2016 #15

Compare her vote total to Obama's. overall turnout was done this election. Exilednight Dec 2016 #17

Cali is still counting and her total is nearly matching his brush Dec 2016 #18

LOL Johnny2X2X Dec 2016 #22

no joke. n/t. okieinpain Dec 2016 #24

The same message and strategy would have won had Clinton not been the messenger. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #25

agreed n/t. okieinpain Dec 2016 #26

More nonsense. duffyduff Dec 2016 #33

You can't debunk a hypothetical. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #34

The economy had nothing to do with Trump. duffyduff Dec 2016 #32