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vi5

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9. It was slightly hyperbolic....
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:12 PM
Dec 2016

No you are correct no laws or rules stopped me. But on DU, even the mildest of criticisms of Obama were met with a lot of pushback and dismissal and condescension. I know there's never going to be anything resembling consensus among any group, but the Democratic community seems to have been in a struggle for the past 8 years between people who believe in a core set of values and want to hold our elected officials to those values, regardless of both the letter after their name and also regardless of what other areas they may be "good" on and those who think we should applaud every move by every Dem. In other words, we aren't supposed to criticize Obama/Clinton/Whoever about their shitty policies on issue 1, because they've done good on issue 2.

My point being that I think we can all agree that almost all Republicans in this current climate and in this day and age are not to be trusted. So rather than raising a majority of a voice to protest or speak out against Obama choosing Comey as FBI director, we were told by a lot of people pulling from the other approach some variation or combination of "He's got this" or "He's being the adult in the room" or "This move is brilliant. It will pay dividends you just don't understand." or "Take a civics lesson" or whatever.

So maybe the correct way to phrase my post would have been "Maybe if we had been more of a unified, loyal opposition to many of Obama's more questionable moves and actions instead of just being asked by a sizable portion of Democrats to cheer louder for him, we'd be in a different boat right now."

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Being the bipartisan adult in the room. vi5 Dec 2016 #1
Yep! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #4
"Maybe if we had been allowed to be more critical of him " NCTraveler Dec 2016 #7
It was slightly hyperbolic.... vi5 Dec 2016 #9
Thank you for that reply. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #10
oh, please, as if anyone had complained about Comey. and Hillary got attacked for using Deplorable JI7 Dec 2016 #16
And this proves my point.... vi5 Dec 2016 #23
people did not critize him on comey JI7 Dec 2016 #24
I see/feel the SOS happening as happened in Germany. He's following Hitler's playbook. Different, RKP5637 Dec 2016 #2
Sure been quite. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #3
This is a great point. I agree. Joe941 Dec 2016 #5
this is so disappointing, ever since he was so nonchalant at their 1st meeting InformedElitist Dec 2016 #6
Our National Security State has dirt on everyone, including Obama. jalan48 Dec 2016 #8
So Obama is now expected to save us from Trump? He tried. No one tried harder. If you're wanting.. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #11
Yeah, I've about had it with this bullshit myself RonniePudding Dec 2016 #14
People, many of whom now regret the choice they made in the GE, think that Obama can somehow.... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #15
Yeah that's the operative meme lately -- no do-overs except impeachment. ucrdem Dec 2016 #17
This is a longshot, but maybe he is being quiet right now because mtnsnake Dec 2016 #12
He owes it to his family, for one thing. Plus he might hope to have some influence lostnfound Dec 2016 #13
why doesn't Obama stop making white people be racist JI7 Dec 2016 #18
He and the rest of the Dems are watching Trump self-destruct. duffyduff Dec 2016 #19
I still maintain that on January 21, 2017, President Obama will still be President philosslayer Dec 2016 #20
Omg! cwydro Dec 2016 #22
knr triron Dec 2016 #21
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