2016 Postmortem

BeyondGeography

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26. The numbers simply don't back that statement up

Sat Dec 17, 2016, 12:04 AM

Dec 2016

Even though she lost white evangelical voters overwhelming, Hillary Clinton still won the popular vote, so it might be easy for Democrats to ignore this deficit. But Michael Wear, President Barack Obama’s religious outreach director for the 2012 campaign, recently made the case that if Clinton had simply matched Obama’s percentage of the white evangelical vote in Michigan and Florida, it would have overcome her losses in those states.

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Why Hillary Clinton Bombed With White Evangelical Voters [View all] BeyondGeography Dec 2016 OP

she was more religious than any of the dem nominees since jimmy carter JI7 Dec 2016 #1

Things that Christ might actually do. nycbos Dec 2016 #2

this election showed a large segment of white evangelicals are actually JI7 Dec 2016 #5

Many of them are misogynists too (even the women). Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #6

Yes, exactly. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #39

What were they in 2008 and 2012 when they voted for president obama? yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #52

most of them didn't vote for Obama JI7 Dec 2016 #53

A lot did. Many in 200 districts did anyway yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #55

most didn't JI7 Dec 2016 #56

that's what they really are treestar Dec 2016 #54

How does that get in the way of filling out a questionnaire? BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #3

i thought these people were about jesus. And many of them don't think women should work JI7 Dec 2016 #4

They've been pissed at her since she said TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #8

That's an excuse EffieBlack Dec 2016 #47

First--they never would have voted for her as she was for reproductive rights, period. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #44

So, totally ignore a huge voting bloc? Even a c token appearance to dionysus Dec 2016 #64

+1000 baldguy Dec 2016 #37

You are so right there! lol! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #43

As far as impressing church-goers, Clinton did it all. Orsino Dec 2016 #61

Trump leads a christian life for evangelicals? dubyadiprecession Dec 2016 #7

And he outperformed Romney anyway BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #9

Don't bet on it. dubyadiprecession Dec 2016 #11

Don't bet on it. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #19

Romney bring mormon was probably worse to them JI7 Dec 2016 #12

Romney posted the same numbers as GWB in 2004 BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #14

Might make a good case standingtall Dec 2016 #17

Maybe a big part of the reason standingtall Dec 2016 #18

I don't blame her for not showing up. Why chase votes of people who typically don't vote for your coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #10

It's about losing a big chunk of voters 75-25 instead of 80-20 BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #13

I still say there are better opportunities else where. coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #22

Certainly BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #23

That's one way of looking at it but I saw 2016 as a base election that we didn't win because coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #24

The numbers simply don't back that statement up BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #26

I don't trust any numbers at this point the numbers said she was going to win too. coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #27

that same statement is true of many other subgroups JustinL Dec 2016 #32

The obvious difference being BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #36

People seem to go back to Clinton would have won if she replicated Obama HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #40

THANK you! EffieBlack Dec 2016 #48

Trump went after Democrats in the rust belt and got them Quixote1818 Dec 2016 #50

screw this triron Dec 2016 #15

How about we just run Ted Cruz next time? BainsBane Dec 2016 #16

exactly coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #25

Ted Cruz lost the evangelicals to Trump which is more evidence they are voting on bigotry JI7 Dec 2016 #33

Bingo! EffieBlack Dec 2016 #49

GOTV is about mustering people who might actually vote for you Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #20

I honestly don't think standingtall Dec 2016 #21

Because they're fucking hypocrites lame54 Dec 2016 #28

Good lord radical noodle Dec 2016 #29

We wrote them off. HassleCat Dec 2016 #30

deplorable hypocrites aren't worth the time. nt oasis Dec 2016 #31

I wonder just how many votes Hillary lost when she labled half of Trump supporters as ... spin Dec 2016 #35

Hillary's "Deplorables" comment was, of course, blown out of proportion. oasis Dec 2016 #41

My simple answer is because Hillary is a woman...many Evangelicals think women... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #34

Yep, being a woman disqualifies her for these people... Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2016 #45

yep, that's an interesting hypothesis. Would bet they overlook their values and go with the man... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #46

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #60

So they voted for a thrice-married sexual predator instead. BlueStater Dec 2016 #38

Yep, they did ...pathetic n/t iluvtennis Dec 2016 #62

I know it's a hugely unopopular view here, but I agree. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #42

Fuck them Emilybemily Dec 2016 #51

How Hillary Clinton Lost The Election. She Ignored the Homophobes! kcr Dec 2016 #57

They don't like uppity Methodists? Actually this unpopular woman won the popular vote.... Hekate Dec 2016 #58

She's been 'bombing' with white evangelicals for a long, long time. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #59

Because she didn't pander to their bigotry...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #63

Turns out white evangelicals ...... Justice Dec 2016 #65