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BREMPRO

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18. right, i remember the comparison when Trump said he would bring coal jobs back an "restore" America
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 12:52 PM
Dec 2016

greatness (back to the 50's/ magic thinking) and Clinton (correctly an realistically) told them those jobs would not likely be coming back due to geopolitical and economic forces (natural gas is cheaper) etc.. The problem was they believed Trump because they wanted to believe it and someone was actually saying it and coming to their communities to offer help, rather than the same old refrain for 30 years while watching the factories close, job not coming back, just retrain, get more "liberal" education, move to where the jobs are etc..

you can't neglect the racial element that was clearly a factor in these predominantly white rural communities that swung the election to Rumpface, but the economic message of rainbows and unicorns over harsh reality was more appealing if unrealistic. Even Trumps' messages to minority communities ("what do you have to lose&quot might have ironically resonated with rust belters.

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Great piece thanks...especially this part: JHan Dec 2016 #1
the media will ignore this research also. riversedge Dec 2016 #2
The media focused mostly PatSeg Dec 2016 #10
Just as the media focused on sanders "they're all corrupt" and "Wall Street" crap bettyellen Dec 2016 #15
Two problems, she may have "talked about" jobs BREMPRO Dec 2016 #11
the Clinton Campaign's ( Particularly Mook) hubris was a problem and Bill's advice was ignored... JHan Dec 2016 #13
Let's rewrite history, shall we? duffyduff Dec 2016 #30
And you are spinning history BREMPRO Dec 2016 #31
Michael Moore needs to see that. duffyduff Dec 2016 #29
No matter how much data there is that she did La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #3
I also blame some Democratic politicians for helping spread the myth.. JHan Dec 2016 #4
yes, as usual, Dems could really benefit from a unified approach without infighting Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #6
Absolutely La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #16
I wrote a whole post about how her actual message got drowned out by negative campaigning hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #7
JOBS!!! Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #5
Here are the tables showing what she spoke about the most: Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #8
What Americans heard: Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #9
Thanks for your post 8. This post 9 word cloud polling info is key. Rec. nt. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #32
the problem with hillary's message was.... Takket Dec 2016 #12
right, i remember the comparison when Trump said he would bring coal jobs back an "restore" America BREMPRO Dec 2016 #18
Your question answers itself, of course. Some have created an alternate reality. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #23
Her speeches had enough economics. Her TV ads didn't. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #14
her ads were one dimensional and depressing BREMPRO Dec 2016 #19
You are being highly dishonest here. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #21
i can only speak from my own personal experience BREMPRO Dec 2016 #26
KNR Lucinda Dec 2016 #17
It's extremely clear what those yelling about her ignoring jobs are attempting to do. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2016 #20
Even though they'll lie and say what they want is both La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #22
It's clear what folks like Tim Ryan are trying to do. I'm not so sure about others. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #25
she DID win the votes of those who voted bssed on economic issues JI7 Dec 2016 #24
Admitting that many of the people who voted for him are La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #28
K and R oasis Dec 2016 #27
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