2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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26. HA. Thank you! I don't blame the majority of BS voters but a very vocal

Sat Dec 17, 2016, 03:51 PM

Dec 2016

Minority were loudly spreading RW crap.

Some of my friends did this and yeah they would have been okay w Biden or a lot of other men not any better than Hillary. And they brought up lots of stuff her husband did -including the affairs- and we know a man would be seen as his own person and not his wife. And saying things like "I can't listen to her" and "I hate her " while not being able to explain why except in tiny sound bites.

There's a lot of reasons we lost, sexism and the medias coverage are the biggest ones. I just think going forward we need to agree that demonizing our own like that has got to end. Feeding the scandal machine w baseless accusations is self defeating. We are a coalition and need to respect that and find a balance that serves us. We need to win big before "the system" gets reformed. Everyone needs to be cognizant of the process and goals. Unity!

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Played like a drum [View all] Uponthegears Dec 2016 OP

It's ready for the glue factory now kcr Dec 2016 #1

All that to say Comey had little effect and to blame the young black guy? brush Dec 2016 #2

You miss the point on Crosscheck Uponthegears Dec 2016 #6

Nah, if not for Crosscheck Hillary's black vote would have been even higher than 92% brush Dec 2016 #9

As am I Uponthegears Dec 2016 #20

This was the first presidential cycle since SCOTUS gutted the voting rights act brush Dec 2016 #22

What you say is truth Uponthegears Dec 2016 #23

Wrong. Bernie knowingly and intentionally ran a divisive campaign. He is divisive R B Garr Dec 2016 #3

Yes his supporters were drooling over the Wikileaks and Guccifer crap and could not see ahead to Nov bettyellen Dec 2016 #4

Exactly, it was irrationally divisive and hateful is a good word for it. R B Garr Dec 2016 #5

And yet Uponthegears Dec 2016 #7

You don't want to bring up the convention to defend the BOBs. Just no. bettyellen Dec 2016 #10

Oh, you bet I'll bring it up Uponthegears Dec 2016 #16

She won Dems almost two to one. He has GOPErs crossing over to vote for him... bettyellen Dec 2016 #18

I don't want to get in the habit Uponthegears Dec 2016 #24

HA. Thank you! I don't blame the majority of BS voters but a very vocal bettyellen Dec 2016 #26

What can I say but Uponthegears Dec 2016 #27

I think there are many people trying to forment dissent among us and we need to ask them bettyellen Dec 2016 #28

That's not venting Uponthegears Dec 2016 #31

True, I'm still unpacking the loss. Have not shed a tear yet such is the shock and anger.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #32

I think I pulled something Uponthegears Dec 2016 #33

i never thought I'd describe something as a national embarrassment but there he is! bettyellen Dec 2016 #34

True, it is absolutely not all the Bernie supporters. Most of them got it in the end. But, R B Garr Dec 2016 #13

BULLSHIT!! Bernie fille stadiums with PROGRESSIVES who wanted CHANGE in a CHANGE year! RBInMaine Dec 2016 #8

Well you got your CHANGE. That's the kind of mindless bullshit that fed the media feeding frenzy.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #11

It's not bullshit that Bernie was very divisive. That is consistent with his decades-long R B Garr Dec 2016 #14

So, of course it is on BoBers. joshcryer Dec 2016 #12

I don't agree with all your points but you do raise issues many don't want to admit to.. JHan Dec 2016 #15

So true Uponthegears Dec 2016 #17

Your last paragraph should be an OP. Well said. bettyellen Dec 2016 #19

It was hate. kentuck Dec 2016 #21

Clinton won by 4.3 million votes in Calif according to the last count. ucrdem Dec 2016 #25

The Shelby County v. Holder decision of 2013 made voter suppression much easier. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #29

I don't dismiss it at all Uponthegears Dec 2016 #30

Voter suppression can't be predicted. It's not an exact science. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #35

I do appreciate your opinions Uponthegears Dec 2016 #36