2016 Postmortem

SaschaHM

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61. And yet this doesn't (posted part) acknowledge his enthusiasm gap with AA voters.

Thu Dec 22, 2016, 08:35 PM

Dec 2016

He wouldn't have won anything if his poor showing with them in the primary translated to an even lower turnout among them in the GE. They are still a vital part of the Obama coalition. He definitely wouldn't have gotten a Clinton level turnout/percentage and that would have sunk him as well.

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Horsey: President Sanders? Bernie would have beaten Trump [View all] portlander23 Dec 2016 OP

Could Russia have interfered with the primaries, to ensure that HRC was the no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #1

There is nothing that suggests that karynnj Dec 2016 #14

Thanks, this is a very good analysis of the email issue. Jim Lane Dec 2016 #17

Great analysis. My only quibble is: JHan Dec 2016 #79

Whike thwy meddled, i don't tbink thay extended to directly manipulating tbe voting machines. dionysus Dec 2016 #26

You mean by expose how the DNC rigged the primaries against Bernie? jfern Dec 2016 #86

While I liked his odds I also thought Hillary had it locked up NWCorona Dec 2016 #2

He couldn't beat Hillary...n/t asuhornets Dec 2016 #3

Bullshit... SidDithers Dec 2016 #4

The Red Scare tactics would have been accompanied by an assault on his tax plan BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #5

The tax increase would have been particularly problematic with more mature voters radical noodle Dec 2016 #76

Such naive thinking OKNancy Dec 2016 #6

A YUGE One Me. Dec 2016 #54

Still fighting the primary? nt Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2016 #7

What utter BS. No way the Midwest votes for a socialist. And just look at the R B Garr Dec 2016 #8

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #10

Welcome to DU.... R B Garr Dec 2016 #11

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This is just divisive and well past the sell date. He calls himself a socialist. R B Garr Dec 2016 #24

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Can I try on those blinders? Plucketeer Dec 2016 #73

Same to you. Must be nice to live in a fantasyland where R B Garr Dec 2016 #81

Wait. We gotta be in a time warp Plucketeer Dec 2016 #84

Same to you. R B Garr Dec 2016 #85

"I am a socialist" - in his own voice captured on youtube DrDan Dec 2016 #16

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #34

so you think the GOP would have ignored that clip - got it DrDan Dec 2016 #45

Well, Sanders won Lonusca Dec 2016 #35

This again? Those were open primaries, and there was plenty of shenanigans R B Garr Dec 2016 #48

In other words Lonusca Dec 2016 #49

Clinton won more open primaries than Sanders. lapucelle Dec 2016 #52

"And this argument also assumes that Sanders Lonusca Dec 2016 #66

I wonder if he would have been able to carry my state, NY, given the way lapucelle Dec 2016 #71

You think Sanders, as a Dem candidate, Lonusca Dec 2016 #74

I have no crystal ball. lapucelle Dec 2016 #87

No. Open primary as in GOP crossing over to vote for a Democrat to R B Garr Dec 2016 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author jack_krass Jan 2017 #96

LOL. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #9

Couldn't even win the primaries liquid diamond Dec 2016 #12

No comment. n/t Megahurtz Dec 2016 #56

If he could have won the primary at least ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #15

My guess would be, if Sanders had won the Democratic Primary ... SFnomad Dec 2016 #18

Bullshit. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #19

The reason Sanders would have beaten Trump mtnsnake Dec 2016 #20

You mean made up right wing garbage? Cause if you believe she carried so much baggage for real, I boston bean Dec 2016 #21

You can continue to bury your head in the sand all you want mtnsnake Dec 2016 #22

You can continue to believe rw bs and spew it ad naseum. It doesn't change the fact boston bean Dec 2016 #30

Now you're just spewing nonsense mtnsnake Dec 2016 #36

Well. You seem to believe she carried it. It being rw made up bs. So not sure how you want me boston bean Dec 2016 #37

Yes I do believe she has too much baggage as a result of the right wing lies about her mtnsnake Dec 2016 #38

You are conceding that false baggage treestar Dec 2016 #42

But Trump's baggage wasn't enough to stop him?? Blue_Tires Dec 2016 #25

No, unfortunately, because he was a non-politician mtnsnake Dec 2016 #28

So you're saying any career politician would have lost to Trump then? Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #90

But Brewer and Ship-- yeah, you're pretty much right about that... dionysus Dec 2016 #31

!@X#@! mtnsnake Dec 2016 #32

Indeed, this cycle NEEDED Sanders Axolotls Dec 2016 #70

Nope, Sanders would have lost big to Trump, probably 40 states. See my #91 below. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #93

Aren't you people finished with this long-dead talking point? Blue_Tires Dec 2016 #23

The fact that HRC beat Bernie's ass by 3.7 million Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #27

There was not enough enthusiasm for him among black voters and other minorities bravenak Dec 2016 #29

Sick of people continuing the attempt to fluff Sanders and sow division. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #39

Without the email there would have been something else treestar Dec 2016 #40

I think Bernie does better in PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #41

Who the fuck cares? He lost. He will never be a Dem candidate for Pres again. His BitterBernie seaglass Dec 2016 #43

+1 Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #44

Sanders is trying to sell books, Hence the media blitz. lapucelle Dec 2016 #53

Let me see if I got it right. HassleCat Dec 2016 #58

Yup Arazi Dec 2016 #46

Bernie, Hillary, both in the past now; we need someone who can be the better of both... HopeAgain Dec 2016 #47

this again? zappaman Dec 2016 #50

More fake news. Do you work in Sanders' office? You sure seem to have loads of time trying... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #51

I Wondered That MYself Me. Dec 2016 #55

It's a reasonable question given the poster's prolific & ceaseless Sanders promotion here at DU. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #57

And If It's Not Sanders Me. Dec 2016 #59

Or Jane? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #63

Haven't Seen Jane Me. Dec 2016 #67

What EXACTLY is fake about it. Please explain. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #62

See my #91 below. This isn't hard to figure out. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #92

Since when is the LA Times fake? Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #75

Speculation. MFM008 Dec 2016 #60

And yet this doesn't (posted part) acknowledge his enthusiasm gap with AA voters. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #61

Sanders is still adored by many. azmom Dec 2016 #65

He is one of the only ones out there vocally and legislatively right now, unfortunately, vigorously JudyM Dec 2016 #68

We never get to know... Orsino Dec 2016 #69

Sanders' message is the future. Corporate centrism the past realmirage Dec 2016 #72

Succinctly stated... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #82

"Also, no misogyny ".. JHan Dec 2016 #77

I do not think sanders would have beaten trump, BUT DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #78

And had Hillary made that wise move, we'd be calling her Madam President. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #83

Maybe, But Probably Not AnnieBW Dec 2016 #80

Delusion and guilt collide. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #88

Interesting Read. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #89

Not this nonsense again. Trump beats Sanders easily and here is why stevenleser Jan 2017 #91

I'd like to think so Wabbajack_ Jan 2017 #94

If by some miracle he had won, we still wouldn't have a Democrat in the White House CajunBlazer Jan 2017 #95