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2016 Postmortem

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YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 11:54 AM Dec 2016

Luzerne County, Pennsylvania vs. Loudoun County, VA [View all]

Luzerne County, PA

Median household income: $45,897

2008
Obama: 53.3%
McCain: 44.9%

2012
Obama: 51.5%
Romney: 47.2%

2016
Trump: 57.9%
Clinton: 38.6%

Clinton's performance in Luzerne was 19 percentage points less than Obama's was in 2012.

By contrast:

Loudoun County, VA

Median household income: $115,574

2008
Obama: 53.7%
McCain: 45.4%

2012
Obama: 51.5%
Romney: 47.1%

2016
Clinton: 55.1%
Trump: 38.2%

Clinton's performance in Loudoun was 3-4 points more than Obama's was in 2012.

Many of the wealthiest areas in the country moved toward the Democrats in this presidential election, while many of the poorest areas in the country moved toward the Republicans. However, many of those same wealthy areas that voted for Clinton still voted for Republicans down-ballot, while conversely, many of those same poor areas that voted for Trump voted for Democrats down-ballot.

The Democrats have always distinguished themselves - to one extent or another - as being the party of the poor and working classes against the Republicans, who are the party of the rich and well-connected. Something is very, very wrong with the picture that has emerged from the Clinton vs. Trump election results this year.
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And, therefore jehop61 Dec 2016 #1
The Democrats have created an opening for populist demagogues like Trump YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #3
I'm not a fan of "Third Way" neoliberalism either. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #8
I voted straight D too. I voted for Clinton in the primaries. YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #10
I did a "bad thing" and didn't vote in Ohio's primary. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #11
Not really a fair comparison since the federal government employs many yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #2
Everything is Topsy turvy for sure Truth321 Dec 2016 #4
I had to look up Luzerne County since I'm not familiar with the area. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #5
too much FoxNews/RW crap for them, I would guess Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #6
.... YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #7
Serious response: Did you even look at the results? Many of these Trump counties voted for Obama YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #9
You can actually. It's more the utter failure of the media to even bother to synergie Dec 2016 #12
Obama also held back on talk of racism while HIllary called it out JI7 Dec 2016 #13
Indeed. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #15
Overall, Clinton did better among those making $50,000 or less per year. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #14
"The American electorate" isn't one monolithic thing. Treating it like it is is part of the problem. YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #16
I didn't say it was monolithic. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #17
And let me add a point I made in another thread I started: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #18
this, it's a toxic stew of fundie xianism, undergirded with racism, homophobia, and misogyny Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #19
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