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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Are we tilting at windmills re: national gun laws? [View all]LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)114. LOTS of supposition here...
They will say the dems are coming for your guns anyway.
Then they will steal the election, and we pretend we can't talk about that.
Had Russia and their de facto arm of our government not been involved in this election, we would have won handily. Down ballot too.
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We are now. Unless every single brown person in America goes out and buys some guns next week.
TygrBright
Nov 2016
#1
JHFC does EVERYthing have to be about race?, but since you brought it up, yes
jack_krass
Dec 2016
#74
depends on whether one thinks we need more true believers or more evangelists.
geek tragedy
Nov 2016
#10
Interesting that you bring up evangelism, given that "gun control" appears to be a religion for many
pablo_marmol
Dec 2016
#113
Here's a fact from the FBI: 13,500 murders annually, all rifles *combined* account for 270.
benEzra
Nov 2016
#46
Legal gun owners have been threatened here at DU, linked to at this OP:
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2016
#68
That's in today's world. I come from a long line of Democrats who worked in the ...
spin
Dec 2016
#82
To use nuance, you have to *understand* the issue, which many in the DC/NY bubble apparently do not.
benEzra
Nov 2016
#63
"But as long as it's a wedge issue we're really never going to make headway on that."
NCTraveler
Nov 2016
#20
The PLCAA doesn't block suits for criminal straw purchases, smuggling, or defective guns.
benEzra
Nov 2016
#30
"(G)un shops were selling thousands of guns at a time to individuals" Cite, please
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2016
#87
No cite or links after a week? It's obvious that claim is bullshit...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2016
#95
I think it did play a part in this defeat, and I tried to talk earlier to DU about that.
Yo_Mama
Nov 2016
#27
Yes. The truth is, Americans simply dont want government telling them what to do.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2016
#28
Americans don't like being told what to do, but they do like the government telling others what to
geek tragedy
Nov 2016
#36
Certainly, and I wouldn't argue that we need to do away with things like building safety or the EPA.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2016
#50
Democrats cease to become players in national politics, that's what happens
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2016
#88
Well, more than 2.5 million more people voted for Hill than the Don, but apparently....
Hekate
Nov 2016
#67
"You"? You are holding me responsible for the mass insanity of this nation? Do you personally want
Hekate
Dec 2016
#78
This is *exactly* the type of misunderstanding that is so harmful to Dems on this issue.
benEzra
Dec 2016
#83
I don't get it then - what does an "assault weapons ban" do if it is not taking away someone's guns?
jmg257
Dec 2016
#85
Yep, there is. There is also a temporary forum for discussing things that hurt Dems last month...
benEzra
Dec 2016
#84
Democrats for the last few decades have been strong on gun control and week on a social safety net
killbotfactory
Dec 2016
#92
This is **precisely** what liberal criminologists James Wright, Peter Rossi
pablo_marmol
Dec 2016
#93
The only constant is change, so I disagree that we should view this as an unsolvable issue or...
CBHagman
Dec 2016
#97
Actually, all surveys but the non-anonymous GSS have shown steady ownership or recent increase.
benEzra
Dec 2016
#100
Hillary's position on gun control was politically naive outside of CA, NY and IL
HoneyBadger
Dec 2016
#116
Kicking for the benefit of members who believe that gun restriction is a political winner.
pablo_marmol
Dec 2016
#119
Gun restrictionists have become the secular "Bible thumpers" of the Democratic Party:
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2016
#120
Hurts the party's efforts to win elections, it's a wedge issue that the pukes distort & capitalize
FreeStateDemocrat
Dec 2016
#123