2016 Postmortem

stevenleser

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25. Out of many Trump voter friends (no family voted Trump), there is only one to whom I give a pass...

Reply to NoGoodNamesLeft (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:02 PM

Dec 2016

... she is Serbian. She is mad at the Clintons for the bombing of Serbia. I can't fault her for that even though I agree with Bill's policy there.

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Do you have loved ones who voted for Trump who you KNOW are NOT racists/sexists/bigots? [View all] NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 OP

He campaigned on destroying immigrant families and banning muslims. libtodeath Dec 2016 #1

and on repealing healthcare and being republican he's gonna Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #4

Many people don't pay attention to the news or look things up NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #6

It seems to me that it's wrong for a citizen to be so poorly informed. yardwork Dec 2016 #63

The Corporate-owned Main Stream Media have been deliberately calculating in their misleading Cal33 Dec 2016 #123

Then why brutus smith Dec 2016 #128

Most people don't know who the hell Stein is NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #135

You're right... Blanks Dec 2016 #155

It is the same thing BainsBane Dec 2016 #192

This EffieBlack Dec 2016 #199

Exactly Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #203

I know a lot of people brutus smith Dec 2016 #211

If they weren't before, they are now Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #214

Pardon them brutus smith Dec 2016 #220

I will pardon you Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #221

Don't worry about me. brutus smith Dec 2016 #228

Anyone who uses the silly and vapid meme Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #235

I was referring brutus smith Dec 2016 #210

Yes, most of my in-laws Amishman Dec 2016 #66

people have a responsibility to inform themselves 85 or not Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #2

She is trusting and trusted her social circle is my best guess NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #9

A lot of them think they are informed because they watch Fox news & listen to talk radio, CrispyQ Dec 2016 #55

The only way that's going to happen is if we all speak up. yardwork Dec 2016 #64

Yes, friends and family. Throd 2.0 Dec 2016 #3

My ex husband was a racist douchebag, and I'm sure he voted Trump but I haven't seen him in years NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #12

Welcome to DU!! (eom) StevieM Dec 2016 #33

If they aren't... tonedevil Dec 2016 #5

Could you please provide some evidence of this claim? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #31

Trump... tonedevil Dec 2016 #42

Please provide proof that you know all of Trump's voters NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #59

You saying I'm making... tonedevil Dec 2016 #95

So you are claiming that over 60 million Americans are racists? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #117

Actually all Americans... tonedevil Dec 2016 #119

Racism/bigotry is not the same thing as bias/prejudice NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #121

Your insistence on intent... tonedevil Dec 2016 #122

But you can't even be a bigot without intent NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #137

All you have to do... tonedevil Dec 2016 #141

I haven't responded to everyone because I haven't read all comments yet NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #145

What a ridiculous definition Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #205

Oxford English Dictionary NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #236

+1000 n/t jaysunb Dec 2016 #172

I get all my news online. If i weren't a political junkie, and all i knew of trump was the tiny bit dionysus Dec 2016 #184

Bingo! EffieBlack Dec 2016 #156

+1 n/t jaysunb Dec 2016 #175

Word otohara Dec 2016 #229

They are now...i make no bones about it to them either. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #7

See post 31 please NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #32

Have they denounced Trump in ANY way Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #208

No. nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #8

If you subject the world to a fascist American government (and its military) FiveGoodMen Dec 2016 #10

I am with you. libtodeath Dec 2016 #73

"No Exceptions" OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #146

I ABSOLUTELY oppose fascists and those who support them! FiveGoodMen Dec 2016 #162

they are the worst kind of bigot..... bowens43 Dec 2016 #11

Unless there is conscious intent then it's not racism/sexism/bigotry NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #35

Plenty of people voted for him who are not bigots or sexists. LonePirate Dec 2016 #13

Definitely should not remain silent...but MUST remain HONEST NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #28

There's not much of a line separating voting for/supporting a bigot and being complicit with bigotry LonePirate Dec 2016 #36

Many of his voters do NOT believe what the press reports NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #60

The onus should be on his voters trying to understand why millions of Americans think he's a bigot. LonePirate Dec 2016 #62

Perhaps it should...but their candidate won, so they won't NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #72

We're never going to appeal to large blocs of his voters. LonePirate Dec 2016 #80

Hillary was smeared relentlessly for decades NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #101

Heartily agree on #2. I've floated that idea as well. Every national Dem should run on that goal. LonePirate Dec 2016 #112

The overwhelming majority of those being labeled as bigots just don't care about identity issues Amishman Dec 2016 #227

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #14

And communists would endorse democrats TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #157

My father in law titaniumsalute Dec 2016 #15

What are "milano children"? cwydro Dec 2016 #18

Milano children are children born in marybourg Dec 2016 #27

Yeah, I figured he wasn't talking about children born in Milan. cwydro Dec 2016 #77

Fucking voice to text LOL titaniumsalute Dec 2016 #110

Isn't a milano a cookie LOL titaniumsalute Dec 2016 #111

Alyssa milano's kids? dionysus Dec 2016 #186

Could have been over abortion NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #38

Yes it could have been the community...which is pretty much the church titaniumsalute Dec 2016 #113

No, some were merely disgustingly sexist. The rest supported his bigotry and hate to such an extent bettyellen Dec 2016 #16

Could you please list the "rest" that you know supported his bigotry? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #41

That's nice. Maybe if you stamp your feet too it will help with the effect you are trying to achieve Squinch Dec 2016 #46

Just asking for evidence to support their claim NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #61

But you stamping your feet and holding your breath at them is helpful and productive? Squinch Dec 2016 #65

Since when is asking for properly cited proof having a tantrum? NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #74

Oh wow -using the RW "reverse racism" or "woman card" bullshit to defend sexism and racism.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #50

First, stereotyping is NOT racism/sexism/bigotry NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #70

Calling out people who condemn those who support bigotry is a RW mind trick.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #93

You're not calling out people who support bigotry, though NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #118

You might want to "rules lawyer " the point that some voted in complete ignorance but ..... bettyellen Dec 2016 #223

Then what people are doing that's got you all upset Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #212

Oh for crying out loud blue cat Dec 2016 #58

I'm not saying you haven't. I'm just saying that you can't truthfully say ALL of a group NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #82

Okay blue cat Dec 2016 #106

Most racists voted for Trump, but most Trump voters are not racists NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #170

From Public Policy Polling: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #171

Whether or not trump is personally racist... he catered to them... which would make him dionysus Dec 2016 #187

This is 1 of the best, 1 of the most realistic, & 1 of the most constructive posts I've read here mtnsnake Dec 2016 #17

DUers love to generalize when it suits them. cwydro Dec 2016 #20

Thanks, I think many here are so angry that they don't see what they are doing NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Dec 2016 #69

I agree. n/t Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #100

Hell will freeze over BainsBane Dec 2016 #194

Yes. PotatoChip Dec 2016 #19

If they seriously thought it was"Trump or WWIII"... SidDithers Dec 2016 #48

Vaht? G O Peeeeee.. voters... vaz you shayin shumthin about them being idiots... to meeee? dionysus Dec 2016 #188

Heya dionysus... SidDithers Dec 2016 #190

Hey stranger! dionysus Dec 2016 #193

I saw much of the same NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #49

If they're not those things they're at least willing to look the other way, it seems onecaliberal Dec 2016 #21

I know that some don't believe he really meant much of what he said, too NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #57

Does your... tonedevil Dec 2016 #97

They know they aren't racists NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #151

They voted for a misogynist, racist sociopath mcar Dec 2016 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #24

That's it right there for me. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #85

I have one close friend who voted for Trump radical noodle Dec 2016 #23

Out of many Trump voter friends (no family voted Trump), there is only one to whom I give a pass... stevenleser Dec 2016 #25

I think you could add brainwashed and gullible to the list. bullimiami Dec 2016 #26

I have found that some of them I didn't really know. redstatebluegirl Dec 2016 #29

AFAIC - if you vote for a racist, sexist, bigot - that makes you a racist, sexist, bigot, too. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2016 #30

My sister. no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #34

Let's distinguish between the Conned and the Corrupt Trump voter delisen Dec 2016 #37

We need a way of implanting a bar code on everyone so we can keep track of all these jalan48 Dec 2016 #39

I have relatives who would THINK they are not racists/sexists/bigots.... Sancho Dec 2016 #40

Just because they are family doesnt mean that they are good people. Jamie Mayfield Dec 2016 #43

Enemies to me and mine - All of them - Nt The Polack MSgt Dec 2016 #44

Too fucking bad... SidDithers Dec 2016 #45

Yes I do. I know several thinking, logical persons... Raster Dec 2016 #51

Anyone who I know that voted for Trump is a racist/sexist/bigot. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #52

no MFM008 Dec 2016 #53

No, those I know who voted for trump are racist, bigots... Tikki Dec 2016 #54

To answer your question with a resounding yes blue cat Dec 2016 #56

I am guessing this didn't go the way you thought it was going to go... Squinch Dec 2016 #67

Don't give up your day job... NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #75

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #84

You joined DU yesterday and you're already calling us the Gestapo? yardwork Dec 2016 #87

No, I joined in 2004. Throd 2.0 Dec 2016 #91

The hack was on November 8, that was 43 days before you "re-registered". George II Dec 2016 #179

Is that you being productive again? Squinch Dec 2016 #127

I do. And I know cradle Democrats who never voted for an R before who voted for Trump. Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #102

I do, lots in fact. Ill even go as far to say that the majority of them are NOT racist. jack_krass Dec 2016 #180

My version of your aunt is a neighbor whom I see marybourg Dec 2016 #68

Frankly, anybody who can tolerate watching Fox all day has to be racist. yardwork Dec 2016 #71

Well, you read my explanation. marybourg Dec 2016 #76

The root of all bigotry is fear. yardwork Dec 2016 #78

Actually, the root of all bigotry is intolerance NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #88

Agreed! brutus smith Dec 2016 #209

Back in 2001 I didn't realize what it was... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #83

I tend to agree with you NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #79

Sadly, the people I know who claim to have voted for him... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #81

I agree with you. I was taught that being a citizen requires responsibility. yardwork Dec 2016 #86

Exactly Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #217

Are you confusing bigotry with bias? Intent is really important on this issue. NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #120

I'm very much aware of the differences between... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #216

We're going to have a heck of a problem in 2018 if this keeps up! Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #89

We'll have a worse problem if we keep enabling atrocious behavior. yardwork Dec 2016 #90

We already lost the election! Not alienatiing all the opposing voters enables nothing except Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #99

I'd rather focus on the Democrats who didn't vote and get them to the polls. yardwork Dec 2016 #104

That's a great approach too, but in 2018 that will be difficult and disillusion should Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #107

Exactly! NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #134

My baby brother is a sexist and that is why he voted for Trump... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #92

I have relatives who voted for Trump who I thought were Lint Head Dec 2016 #94

But being "oblivious" OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #148

I agree. But either you are ignorant or oblivious because Lint Head Dec 2016 #168

That caricature is too simple. There was a poll not long before the election that... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #96

They may not BE racists or sexists, but racism and sexism are KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #98

I don't know the hearts of these people only their actions Afromania Dec 2016 #103

You should not assume my own family has not been impacted, because it has NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #150

right Afromania Dec 2016 #158

YES! And this especially: Squinch Dec 2016 #153

Fortunately no. All my family and relatives, as far as I know, voted for HRC ffr Dec 2016 #105

No, the only people I know that voted fro tRump are bigots (of one stripe or another/ or multiple) etherealtruth Dec 2016 #108

I don't think they are all necessarily racist, sexist, etc. Chemisse Dec 2016 #109

They either liked that he was racist, or they were OK with it. Nt gollygee Dec 2016 #114

Sorry, no. Fuck them all. lastone Dec 2016 #115

No. OnionPatch Dec 2016 #116

They may not be racists but they voted for racism adigal Dec 2016 #124

Unless your non-racist Trump voters are prepared TODAY to join the resistance stopbush Dec 2016 #125

Exactly..if you choose to wield the power of your vote Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #215

Nope. They made me wear my Obama-vote, why should I check my commentary to save fee-fees? Pholus Dec 2016 #126

Is this in response to this? rug Dec 2016 #129

I know at least two people who voted for Trump who I wouldn't consider to be bigots. Willie Pep Dec 2016 #130

nah Afromania Dec 2016 #131

No passes from me. yardwork Dec 2016 #136

racists/sexists/bigots, you left off deeply stupid Exultant Democracy Dec 2016 #132

You mean people have no treestar Dec 2016 #133

Trick question Turbineguy Dec 2016 #138

Polling showed top two issues for Trump voters was immigration and terrorism Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #139

On one end yes, they are ethnic/race-based issues...IF you are a racist/bigot NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #142

Lulz Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #173

they thought it was ok for someone who went around attacking hispanics to be President JI7 Dec 2016 #177

I know good people that voted for Trump marylandblue Dec 2016 #140

They get to call us losers and sore losers. pintobean Dec 2016 #143

Not all are racist. Some are idiots. DanTex Dec 2016 #144

Yes. She's a white woman, a special education teacher for students with developmental 24601 Dec 2016 #147

Not off-hand sakabatou Dec 2016 #149

Labels are great Joe Turner Dec 2016 #152

They are the "I'm not a racist, but..." racists. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #154

Yes, I do.... CherokeeDem Dec 2016 #159

I had conservative friends who I never would have thought of as racist randr Dec 2016 #160

No. All Trump voters voted for a racist agenda of muslim registries and walls against Mexican rapist bravenak Dec 2016 #161

Consequences are different than condemnation marylandblue Dec 2016 #163

Condemnation IS their CONSEQUENCE bravenak Dec 2016 #165

nope Afromania Dec 2016 #166

Without power BainsBane Dec 2016 #196

since thst voted for someone who attacked entire groups of people they shouldn't mind some JI7 Dec 2016 #164

And I am sick of being asked to give a pass to people who knowingly voted for a racist EffieBlack Dec 2016 #167

Truth. teezy Dec 2016 #176

Thank you The Polack MSgt Dec 2016 #204

No, I don't. I may love them but they're bigots. Part of the problem is some seem to think... Garrett78 Dec 2016 #169

They are all racist or indistinguishable from racist samir.g Dec 2016 #174

Glad you started this thread Rural_Progressive Dec 2016 #178

There are some in my extended family mvd Dec 2016 #181

Yes. jack_krass Dec 2016 #182

No. liberalmuse Dec 2016 #183

I'm sorry, but if they voted for Trump, then they ARE racists/sexists/bigots PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #185

No I don't have any loved ones that voted for Trump True_Blue Dec 2016 #189

LOL Afromania Dec 2016 #198

They decided they were comfortable with a man BainsBane Dec 2016 #191

You are awesome - thank you! EffieBlack Dec 2016 #200

My parents. MarvinGardens Dec 2016 #195

They may be redeemable - but they need to redeem themselves EffieBlack Dec 2016 #202

Agree 100% (nt) MarvinGardens Dec 2016 #233

Yes... nt Raine Dec 2016 #197

How about a single-issue voter who otherwise likes Barack Obama. Eugene Dec 2016 #201

Most racists are idiots but not all idiots are not necessarily racist . . . EffieBlack Dec 2016 #206

How dare you challenge the DU orthodoxy Uponthegears Dec 2016 #207

ANYONE who paints ANY group with too broad a brush is being ignorant and foolish. Period. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #213

Let's not forget, the people you're so vigorously defending Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #218

I would not be surprised if some of my relatives voted by Trump. avebury Dec 2016 #219

Shit loads of people around here voted for Trump. jmg257 Dec 2016 #222

You didn't know women can be just as sexist as men? bettyellen Dec 2016 #224

Agreed. I do know enough people who didn't give a shit about sex of the candidates. jmg257 Dec 2016 #225

I've met people that claimed that, but talked about Bill- his penis, the policies he bettyellen Dec 2016 #226

Can't Agree More ... DaleFromWPB Dec 2016 #230

Yes, my sister. She just hated Hillary so much she refused to vote for her. She is the product of TrekLuver Dec 2016 #231

"Do you have loved ones who voted for Trump who you KNOW are NOT racists/sexists/bigots?" DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #232

my aunt REALLY was silly about bill clinton + said she wanted to vote idiot. never mind RUMP a PERV. pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #234

"falsely accused and labelled as bigots"? Atticus Dec 2016 #237