2016 Postmortem

JCanete

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77. okay, I retract it, but I also resent your characterization that seems unmerited under the

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 02:14 PM

Jan 2017

circumstances. I fully admit a shitty job researching the governorship, but it wasn't that germane to my point anyway, so I didn't do due diligence.

The point about New York is that it was his promotion of it at an AUDIBLE National Level, AND IMPORTANTLY, Clinton's adoption of it in her platform as a primary concession, that made this a possibility. Vermont, on the other hand, has not taken it up, which is again, not Sanders actual role to make happen any more than he could have directly done it in New York.

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Where was Bernie today? [View all] EffieBlack Jan 2017 OP

Same reason none of the other Senators did. elleng Jan 2017 #1

But isn't Bernie supposed to be different from the rest? Stronger, braver, tougher, more independent EffieBlack Jan 2017 #2

Touche' Cha Jan 2017 #10

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+1. Great question. I'll await the answer, but I suspect it may never come. nt Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #12

Oh snap. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #22

what would he have been standing up to? The problem is Trump still won the electoral college. That JCanete Jan 2017 #37

Standing up and questioning the Electoral College vote wouldn't have changed the outcome... George II Jan 2017 #68

Because he has been advocating for things that nobody else was on board with or willing to entertain JCanete Jan 2017 #72

His low level of legislative achievement isn't a "metric", it's a fact. George II Jan 2017 #73

He was invited to be by his side...you think sanders just showed up and said "is this seat taken?" JCanete Jan 2017 #74

Yes, Sanders is a US Senator, not a State Senator, but he's a US Senator from VERMONT, not New York. George II Jan 2017 #75

okay, I retract it, but I also resent your characterization that seems unmerited under the JCanete Jan 2017 #77

But what does that have to do with this story? NWCorona Jan 2017 #39

Dang! Spot on, EB. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #52

Your made up narrative certainly makes it look that way... TCJ70 Jan 2017 #60

among those was free college, which she ended up adding to her platform, which New York just JCanete Jan 2017 #63

He needs to concentrate on things he can have an effect on like Medicare womanofthehills Jan 2017 #70

No - cos he's the leader of the Revolut...i..o.. fuck it. pkdu Jan 2017 #3

Today he lost whatever credibility he had left. He talks a good game, but didn't utter a peep when EffieBlack Jan 2017 #9

Yep. Agreed. nt pkdu Jan 2017 #14

So did every sitting Dem senator lose any credibility? NWCorona Jan 2017 #40

Yes, many of them did, elleng Jan 2017 #48

I can appreciate the consistency. NWCorona Jan 2017 #50

Yes, they did - but not as much as the guy who's supposed to be such a revolutionary EffieBlack Jan 2017 #59

People that voted for Bernie and then Hillary always say... tecelote Jan 2017 #30

Yes indeed, our priority should be coming together. elleng Jan 2017 #49

You as a staunch Bernie Sanders supporter...did you vote for Hillary in the GE? BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #53

I staunchly supported Governor O'Malley, elleng Jan 2017 #54

You're correct. You were for O'Malley. My apologies. I forgot that part. BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #56

Isn't it obvious? HassleCat Jan 2017 #4

Based on his earlier writings, I think he probably resents being defeated by a woman. George II Jan 2017 #6

So, why do YOU think that he didn't speak up today? EffieBlack Jan 2017 #7

For the same reason none of the others did. HassleCat Jan 2017 #11

So speaking up and standing with the CBC members on something this important was a "futile quest?" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #13

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie! HassleCat Jan 2017 #15

Who said anything about "everything being Bernie's fault?" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #16

Is the number 44 significant? HassleCat Jan 2017 #19

Because those Democrats haven't set themselves up to be mavericks who buck the "establishment" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #31

No Democratic Senator spoke negatively about President Obama, either. Bernie did. He even BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #55

Huh? You seem to contradict the first part of you post with what you wrote in the second part. brush Jan 2017 #26

If he's intent on dividing the Democrats then why was he appointed to a Dem leadership position? NWCorona Jan 2017 #41

This would have been a good opportunity to show leadership. nt ucrdem Jan 2017 #47

There are a lot of books to be sold. George II Jan 2017 #5

Books to hawk? leftofcool Jan 2017 #8

Bernie had other issues to deal with. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #17

Hee hee. narnian60 Jan 2017 #57

At least you... tonedevil Jan 2017 #18

Very warm NWCorona Jan 2017 #42

I must admit... Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #20

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #27

Where was Bernie in 2004? ucrdem Jan 2017 #21

I love Maxine Waters. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #23

She is fearless. ucrdem Jan 2017 #24

Hey you.... sheshe2 Jan 2017 #62

heya sheshe! ucrdem Jan 2017 #64

Seriously! True_Blue Jan 2017 #25

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #28

I believe Bernie was in Ft. Lauderdale and stuck in the chaos down here. Sorry to interrupt your monmouth4 Jan 2017 #29

Link? EffieBlack Jan 2017 #32

It was mentioned in the tv coverage on MSNBC..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2017 #33

Can't be true onenote Jan 2017 #34

I can only report what I heard, sorry..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2017 #35

You could acknowledge that the facts don't square with what you heard. onenote Jan 2017 #36

Would you like his itinerary? NWCorona Jan 2017 #43

if it shows how he could be caught in Fort Lauderdale onenote Jan 2017 #45

IDK, that's a good question. Ligyron Jan 2017 #38

He probably didn't want to insult the segment of Trump voters that could be reached hollowdweller Jan 2017 #44

He doesn't want to insult Trump voters so he turned his back on a loyal Democratic base EffieBlack Jan 2017 #61

... NWCorona Jan 2017 #46

Primary is over. I respectfully suggest we focus on Putin's Poodle DLevine Jan 2017 #51

It's over. Time to regroup. azmom Jan 2017 #58

Where were the other Senators in the party? 4bucksagallon Jan 2017 #65

Not "picking on" Bernie. Bernie held himself out as different, better, beyond the others EffieBlack Jan 2017 #66

Because of the people here claiming Bernie was the best leader treestar Jan 2017 #67

Sanders is not some "other Senator in the Party." He is not in our party at all. DFW Jan 2017 #69

He's a meanie!!1!!11 QC Jan 2017 #71

its irrelevant, we aren't a cult. policies and ideas, not to mention that caucusing, JCanete Jan 2017 #82

This again? HassleCat Jan 2017 #78

Holding him accountable for walking his talk is not "Bernie hate" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #79

Yes, it is, actually. HassleCat Jan 2017 #80

His talk has not been to disavow the electoral college, or to waste energy pointing at Russia JCanete Jan 2017 #81

Taking Trump, Preibus, Republicans, et al. to task for possible cuts to... SMC22307 Jan 2017 #83

He was doing all that at 1 pm on Friday? EffieBlack Jan 2017 #84