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karynnj

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25. What you ignore is that even when she was SoS, there were congressional and Foia requests for her
Sun Jan 8, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jan 2017

emails. Note - I did not say anything about the server. What I said was that she opted not to archive the emails with the SD when she left. You can argue all you want that Powell actually destroyed his (Rice did not use email). It is still absolutely true that Congress delayed her final testimony because they wanted her emails first. They asked when they would get them every time someone from the State Department briefed them on anything. As I said NOT ILLEGAL, but it was a political poor decision to not leave them when she left. Did she really thing Congress would get bored waiting or that the SD would stonewall for 4 years?

The speeches were a negative issue against her in both the primaries and the general election. I agree that it was her right to give them and receive compensation. What I am saying is that she did not need the money and should have been able to forecast that she could be attacked for doing so. It is a choice she made - and I bet you - that if she could go back to 2013, she would not give those speeches.

You completely miss what I meant when I said none of these things were principled actions that she did even knowing the political cost. My point is that all three things listed were things done carelessly without thinking they could be baggage.

PS I READ your posts - and could have reminded you that you are not suppose to quote more than 4 paragraphs.
PSS Reading them does not mean I agree
PSSS I am not in the least confused -- and it is beyond rude saying that someone who disagrees is "confused"

She did not win in a landslide. I agree that the electoral congress should not exist, but it does. By the agreed on rules, you need to win the electoral Congress. She blew out the California and several other states, but you can not take extra CA votes and apply them to WI! I also agree that the Obama years should have included a major revamp to fix everything wrong in the voting system. There is actually a stronger case that Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 would have been won by the Democrats without voter suppression.



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+1000 sheshe2 Jan 2017 #4
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Fantastic OP, synergie! brer cat Jan 2017 #10
ANY losing candidate goes through that same nonsense karynnj Jan 2017 #11
I think you're missing the point here, which was that this was happening throughout synergie Jan 2017 #16
I guess you missed the intra party attacks in 2000, 2004 and 200 karynnj Jan 2017 #21
Once again, I wonder if you read the post. synergie Jan 2017 #24
What you ignore is that even when she was SoS, there were congressional and Foia requests for her karynnj Jan 2017 #25
The question has never been answered honestly... Yurovsky Jan 2017 #26
So you STILL have not read the post, as you attack her to illustrate how it's not about synergie Jan 2017 #27
Look, I know you LOVE the piece, which incidentally you posted more than you are allowed to karynnj Jan 2017 #29
Wow, you "know" a lot of things that you can't support, don't you? synergie Jan 2017 #31
Talk about unsupported statements! That describes this karynnj Jan 2017 #32
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