2016 Postmortem

SaschaHM

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31. So we're just giving up the whole 50-state thing, right?

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 04:12 PM

Jan 2017

Diminishing the role that Democrats in Red and Purple States play in organizing around and picking our nominee only weakens us in those states. We may not go blue every presidential cycle, but we bolster Dem numbers in congress and more importantly, in the state houses. Look how the republicans were abled to hamper the Medicaid expansion by controlling the state houses.

Secondly, Dems do care about those issues that you mentioned. Do not conflate the views of the republican electorate with that of the Democratic one because while Dems may be living high on the hog off progressive legislation in solid blue states, we are fighting tooth and nail down south just to get it.

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I sure hope that California and other progressive states (such as NY) vote earlier in the primary! [View all] Akamai Jan 2017 OP

I'd like to see a weighted system temporary311 Jan 2017 #1

Good thoughts on this! But I don't think I would put states that lost hugely in the Akamai Jan 2017 #4

in 2020 CA and NY can go first. NH and Iowa can go last. its only fair to swap now and then ** msongs Jan 2017 #2

Why wouldn't there be? nt. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #10

the entire Country needs to hold primary elections ON THE SAME DAY. putitinD Jan 2017 #3

Interesting proposition. I am not sure I am with this but have not considered it. Akamai Jan 2017 #5

imagine what a mess we woud have if we had a rolling general, for the same exact reason, we need putitinD Jan 2017 #6

That would advantage the most well known candidates. pnwmom Jan 2017 #7

no, it would give every candidate a fair and equal chance. putitinD Jan 2017 #8

No it really wouldn't mythology Jan 2017 #9

I agree. Early primaries, especially in the South, favor more conservative candidates. jalan48 Jan 2017 #11

no it doesn't. it favors whoever can appeal to black voters who are the most loyal dem voters JI7 Jan 2017 #14

The entire West Coast gave all its electoral votes to Clinton. It's our turn to go first. jalan48 Jan 2017 #17

states deide when to set their primary. JI7 Jan 2017 #21

Try telling Michigan that NobodyHere Jan 2017 #26

california did it to save money JI7 Jan 2017 #28

Michigan tried it NobodyHere Jan 2017 #32

in 2008 JI7 Jan 2017 #33

so black voters who vote dem the most should go last ? JI7 Jan 2017 #12

southern dem primary is largely black voters and they do not support those positions you claim JI7 Jan 2017 #13

And still those southern states reliably go for Republicans ... why handcuff ourselves by appealing Akamai Jan 2017 #15

black voters are reliably dem. far more than whites in the bluest states JI7 Jan 2017 #22

Because frightened Republicans are known for making better decisions? Orsino Jan 2017 #16

First of all, the primary schedule is being somewhat misrepresented. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #18

You've thought a lot about this! Good for you! I guess one of my beliefs is that the big states of Akamai Jan 2017 #19

Again, though, most of the Deep South states are far from being the reddest. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #23

I do believe that the deep South States emphasize guns, gays, Akamai Jan 2017 #29

But we mustn't conflate the Democratic electorate with the Republican electorate. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #30

especially since the gun control issue came up more during the southern primaries since most black JI7 Jan 2017 #34

Illinois should go first. Exilednight Jan 2017 #20

I've said before that if any single state is going to lead things off, it should be Illinois. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #24

the southern states helped Obama become the nominee JI7 Jan 2017 #25

I've always been in favor with letting states with the highest voter turnout go first NobodyHere Jan 2017 #27

So we're just giving up the whole 50-state thing, right? SaschaHM Jan 2017 #31

Why should the same states get to go first every four damn years? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #37

Absent Iowa and New Hampshire... SaschaHM Jan 2017 #38

No the states don't pick when they go. former9thward Jan 2017 #39

They tried to move their primaries ahead of a specific date cutoff Feb 5. SaschaHM Jan 2017 #40

The DNC should have no role in this. former9thward Jan 2017 #41

What? That's a reach. SaschaHM Jan 2017 #43

And why the hell is it written in stone for those two states? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #42

NJ used to vote earlier crazycatlady Jan 2017 #35

Yeah, we need to rotate the schedule, at the very least. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #36