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Chan790

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3. The last phrase is a problem.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:55 PM
Feb 2012

It's all in framing, but stipending "core activists" is a back-door way to attempt to choose leadership through the apportionment of funds and subvert the GA. If I were trying to bend Occupy to my agenda, that's how I would do it. MRG chooses who the "core activists" are, you can bet that they're going to choose who they want to be in charge.

By default of having funding and office-space, those people will be latched onto by the media as leadership and spokespeople. It's a poison-pill all over and a coup d'etat. From my POV, OWS GA should tell MRG to f**k off...if they want to donate, they can do it the same as everybody else.

Edit: This all goes back to what LG is saying in the thread on infiltration. This is an infiltration. It's a shiny happy one from people that are well-liked and well-regarded, people who may even think they're doing the right thing...but this is how movements of the people get co-opted by those with means.

Edit 2: I excerpted the portion from Leopold's Ghost's post that I think relevant to the coopt concerns I'm having.

I've read books where they talk about the dangers just of seeking fiscal sponsorship... when an organization that is fiscally sponsored by an existing, larger nonprofit (and these are mostly lefty organizations) gets a substantial cash donation, the "parent" organizaiton will very often engineer it so that they take control of the project and get to say how the money is spent -- and that is in the realm of financial advice for nonprofits, not even taking into account political hostility towards left-libertarians or the left in general. -Leopold's Ghost http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1252&pid=679

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Occupy Groups Get Funding [View all] ellisonz Feb 2012 OP
I think it's fantastic 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #1
I LUV to see money being used to further OWS's progress and agenda. I am not going to worry Vincardog Feb 2012 #2
The last phrase is a problem. Chan790 Feb 2012 #3
I somewhat agree. Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2012 #14
Here is a link to their comments page if y'all want to congratulate them. Vincardog Feb 2012 #4
Done unionworks Feb 2012 #5
You are welcome. Vincardog Feb 2012 #6
I think it's great. I was hoping someone would do something like that. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #7
Ben and Jerry will Co-opt us! unionworks Feb 2012 #8
Aw, I wanted that job. Shouldn't we have a consensus or something? sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #9
If they want our support unionworks Feb 2012 #10
Lol, you are a genius. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #11
Not a genius unionworks Feb 2012 #12
99% Ice Cream unionworks Feb 2012 #13
'tabasco sauce for pepper spray' ~ sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #15
I beleive the 1% ingredient may be 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #16
runny sticky fudge unionworks Feb 2012 #17
Sgt. Pepperspray Ice Cream unionworks Feb 2012 #18
lol 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #19
I understand unionworks Feb 2012 #22
Some was but some 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #24
I watched the LA eviction unionworks Feb 2012 #25
Ohh "Freedom" ellisonz Feb 2012 #26
She was livestreaming today from the F29 Wal-Mart protest in Mira Loma, CA pinboy3niner Feb 2012 #27
Occupy groups protest corporations and Walmart in Eastvale ellisonz Feb 2012 #28
No, I think you're onto something Magoo48 Feb 2012 #20
I love red hots unionworks Feb 2012 #21
I'm more than a bit concerned for the reasons Chan790 states Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #23
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