The suicide component of the gun debate

[freshwest]

46. I have no idea if this the beginning if Gungeon II, as some posters spend most of their time there.

The effectiveness and speed of a gun for suicide is a reason why some would keep a gun around for such a purpose. Although that indicates planning and they would find a way - but a gun is quick and sure.

With such a high percentage of suicide by gun, they may have purchased for that reason. But one would hope they did not buy a gun for just one purpose, such as stalkers or DV abusers have done, to intimidate or kill their victims. That is the reason why court orders should be made to not avail them of that particular opportunity to kill.

That killers often kill themselves as the police close in to deny society to have the last word, has its on name, 'suicide by cop,' but it's also to escape the consequences of crime. But I think it serves little to delve into the mind of such persons.

The problem in using suicide as a reason to deny the right to own a gun does come into play when one is adjudicated to be a danger to oneself and others in mental health court.

Obviously, with such a high rate quoted in this thread of 60% by Robb, they weren't getting help. Not all people live in areas which support the mentally ill, not all people have insurance or family to make certain they get the care they need.

I'm not sure why this topic was brought up, but the assumption might be made, having no idea about the OP's stance on gun matters, and only knowing in general, just 3 on this thread's positions besides myself, I don't know why it is here other than a philosophical exercise.

It's an odd question that even the most avid pro-gun poster would not admit to holding as their real reason to own a gun, since it might indicate their own lack of sanity or propensity in the issue. People seldom if ever admit to having such pain and or sorrow they have considered ending it by their own hand.

I see the reasoning behind what one may construe as a possible rationale for the person who wants to be prepared for all possibilities. But it's not a gun control issue, it's as one poster here calls it a 'gun freedom' issue for some. IOW, advocating for no questions asked in practice, which is not about encouraging legislation for gun control that everyone knows will never take place - the right to kill yourself with a gun.