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okasha

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17. I see some problems
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 08:55 PM
Apr 2014

with both of those definitions.

The first would include Muslims, who believe that the Messenger Isa was conceived in exactly that way by Maryam, a virgin of the Jewish people.

The second has so much slack in it as to be virtually meaningless. Eg., it could be applied to me (though most definitely not by me) because I see Jesus and Mary as avatars of the divine masculine and the divine feminine, but my spiritual practice includes them only tangentially.

And probably neither one of them would have been accepted by Jesus himself and his Jewish followers, for whom "Son of.God" was a title of the King of Israel. (See Psalm 2, one of the "coronation psalms, : "You are my son; today I have begotten you.&quot In fact some variants of the gospels have those words in place of the better-
known "This is my beloved son. . . " in the
baptismal narratives.

And then, of course, thete are those who believe your first definition but don't follow through on putting Jesus's teachings into practice. Neither Jesus nor his brother James thought that was adequate.

It's a thornier question than it seems to be, isn't it?

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I guess you *can* be, but then you would be a Christian that follows Common Sense Party Apr 2014 #1
I agree. I think many Christians have a problem with the resurrection. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #2
Not without adding an adjective. rug Apr 2014 #3
it is a core teaching that I believe in. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #4
I would have included the next verse Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #9
Can you eat pork and still be a Christian? Downwinder Apr 2014 #5
Yes. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #6
That is inapposite. Refraining from pork is not a core Christian teaching. rug Apr 2014 #7
Marcus Borg argues quite convincingly TM99 Apr 2014 #8
I read his blog, Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #10
I am not Christian, so I can only speak to what I have TM99 Apr 2014 #12
Father Bruce Chilton okasha Apr 2014 #20
Yes, there are quite a liberal TM99 Apr 2014 #22
Chilton argues quite convincingly okasha Apr 2014 #23
In a philosophical sense yes, certainly. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #13
How do you define okasha Apr 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #15
I see some problems okasha Apr 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #18
You've covered a lot of ground here. okasha Apr 2014 #21
Definitely you can "question" it goldent Apr 2014 #16
Paul said it best if there was no resurection then our faith is a lie . Leontius Apr 2014 #19
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