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DonCoquixote

(13,829 posts)
3. I am the first person to hate Nader
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:24 PM
Nov 2013

I was in Florida in 2000, and I had to endure weeks of talk radio where people not only confessed they used the greens to cut Gore's throat, they documented it so that they can try this again.

That being said, Nader is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT HERE. If Hillary was the great left hope people want her to be, she has had ample, ample chances to do it. Hell, if she were to come out and say she would do simple things, like repair Glass-Steagall, CUT the military, and tell BIBI netanyahu to stop the West Bank settlements (which is BIBI's big raised middle finger to the peace accords the Clintons themselves did) then i would cheer for her, but she has not, she will not, and instead, she makes cute little jokes about "we came, we saw, he died" about gadaffi being killed.

Again, since I have to answer this question, ala a loyalty oath, yes, if she WINS the primary, I will vote for her. However, the fact that so many candidates have been ignored or run out shows a real problem Demcorats have. In 2004, the clintons were silent when Kerry was being swift boated, that was because Hillary wanted 2008. Now, we have no Young Turks, save maybe Booker and Castro, and they are in the mold of Clinton. If we crown Hillary, we might as well say that we have no interest in any generation after the Boomers, which means we will have to spend crucial years fighting off the Rubios, Haleys, and other young wolves that can and will be back for another whack at things. We will also ignore OWS, which contrary to the myths beind sold everywhere, even here on DU, the OWS generation is the one that will win the fight, because they have the anger needed to fight. If the democrats roll out the unwelcome mat, then the energy OWS has will be bled off into several little movements, which will make the Koch brothers pleased, because it will mean that we once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, and the oligarchs have another 20 years to complete their destruction of civilization.

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Nader should have run for Senator years ago Skink Nov 2013 #1
I am reminded of 2007-2008 and the "inevitability" of Hillary. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Nov 2013 #2
I am the first person to hate Nader DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #3
Ralph Nader was a really good product safety advocate.... Walk away Nov 2013 #4
I'd say Gore handed the presidency to the Republicans, Maedhros Nov 2013 #18
I don't see how ANY true progressive can win pangaia Nov 2013 #6
If she wanted to try, I think Liz Warren could have a good shot at winning the primary. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #7
Liz is one person I would definitely go out and work for. pangaia Nov 2013 #11
Please, no more Clintons and no more Bushes. (n/t) spin Nov 2013 #8
here here. she is a corporatist, was hawk and she will bring all the bill people in. roguevalley Nov 2013 #9
I just firmly believe that we do not need any political dynasties in our nation, period! spin Nov 2013 #10
Now I like her. I'm sick of Nadir opening his BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #12
Nader haters gonna' hate. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2013 #19
Kick, thanks. Scuba Nov 2013 #13
I see the irony of a corporate sponsored Ms. Clinton getting the best of Citizens United ruling. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #14
Hillary is a solid investment for TPTB. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #15
So do you get the irony? Citizens United was about corp-money to be used to torpedo her rhett o rick Nov 2013 #16
This! KoKo Nov 2013 #17
Bizzare bedfellows. I'd love to be a miniature drone for a week. nt adirondacker Nov 2013 #20
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