Democratic Primaries

highplainsdem

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21. Thanks for voting anyway, every time. I've voted in plenty of elections where I

Tue Mar 10, 2020, 06:46 PM

Mar 2020

wasn't crazy about our candidates, but they were still much better than the Republican alternatives.

Re bringing more people to the polls -- there's no evidence from the primary race so far that the wave of new voters Sanders has talked about is materializing.

I don't blame progressives for often overestimating how many people agree with them. They're probably going on their own experience, what they hear from their friends. I remember Seth Abramson tweeting some time back that he didn't know a single person who supporter Biden. And as bizarre as that sounded, I believe he believes that -- that he's surrounded by likeminded people, and maybe those who disagree with his views simply don't tell him. People often exist in bubbles they're unaware of.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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NY Times Op-Ed: The Simple Reason the Left Won't Stop Losing [View all] honest.abe Mar 2020 OP

I think Warren Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #1

Indeed. Warren was much closer to a "practical" progressive. honest.abe Mar 2020 #2

I ageee ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #3

Sanders had four years to build a coalition or adjust tactics. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #4

From the beginning of Bernie's campaign he painted the Democratic party as the enemy still_one Mar 2020 #5

a candidate incapable of team building and welcoming a variety of views fares poorly nt msongs Mar 2020 #6

Many have realized that many others don't want 'transformational change,' elleng Mar 2020 #7

People got bored with Sanders. NYMinute Mar 2020 #8

The left practices "Linear Politics" (I am trademarking that phrase.) Yavin4 Mar 2020 #9

That's a good description, almost like bit or boolean logic Hav Mar 2020 #17

I trashed this NYT op because it's not accurate. Democrats didn't lose in 2008 and 2012 when abqtommy Mar 2020 #10

I dont think the author is referring to past elections. honest.abe Mar 2020 #13

I don't really talk too much about the popular vote from 2016 because I feel it lets James Comey StevieM Mar 2020 #23

Personally I think the Democratic Party has gotten old and comfortable* and scared pecosbob Mar 2020 #11

Well that's helpful. honest.abe Mar 2020 #12

I know it's not...I get this way every four years pecosbob Mar 2020 #14

Thank you for expressing the losing attitude referred to by the NYT so well. highplainsdem Mar 2020 #16

The fact is I vote...every time...attitude has nothing to do with it pecosbob Mar 2020 #19

Thanks for voting anyway, every time. I've voted in plenty of elections where I highplainsdem Mar 2020 #21

This isn't about being fat and scared Hav Mar 2020 #20

And I would agree with most of your points pecosbob Mar 2020 #22

The inability to compromise was meant more in a general way Hav Mar 2020 #29

Absolutely pecosbob Mar 2020 #30

... or no one wants to burn the house down to save it? tia uponit7771 Mar 2020 #25

Good analogy, but wasn't that Matt Gaetz I saw playing with matches in the cloak room? pecosbob Mar 2020 #27

+1, he was trying to burn the mask off his face ... he forgot how he put it on uponit7771 Mar 2020 #28

KnR NCProgressive Mar 2020 #15

Perhaps a 'socialist' can't be elected in the US. At least 'socialist' ideas are acceptable. pampango Mar 2020 #18

You could be right. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2020 #24

Agreed. I am wedded to the ideas/policies, not the candidate. pampango Mar 2020 #31

"The biggest lesson is simply this: The American left doesn't care enough about winning." Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #26

the biggest lessson for me... stillcool Mar 2020 #32

I Think ArroganceIs Part Of It Me. Mar 2020 #33

Sanders and Warren split the "Left", whatever that is. maxsolomon Mar 2020 #34

Because they always run against the Democratic Party Hortensis Mar 2020 #35