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21. Thank you for an honest answer and a realistic approach

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:05 PM

Mar 2020

on how to realize these programs. It's what I've been saying all along. If you want those social programs, prepare to pay similar taxes like those social democracies. I think it would be worth it. Many BS supporters don't seem to see it that way and misunderstand what some people call "free healthcare". BS is certainly shying away from explaining it like you did. But I don't see any other way how to achieve it otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So, Bernie, how are you going to pay for the free stuff? Details please [View all] Jersey Devil Mar 2020 OP

Socialist math. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #1

Here's one: "Inasmuch your mother died of heart disease when she was 46.... George II Mar 2020 #2

tax the rich. nationalize businesses? Aint that the play out of the socialist playbook? beachbumbob Mar 2020 #3

The Sanders campaign is like an old time medicine show mindem Mar 2020 #4

They were called snake charmers. William769 Mar 2020 #38

This is the problem I have when they keep showing the m4a exit poll number Claustrum Mar 2020 #5

First no. squirecam Mar 2020 #15

well Claustrum Mar 2020 #19

It ain't 'free stuff'. Europeans have it. It ain't 'free'. They just choose to pay for pampango Mar 2020 #6

It is "free stuff" until you explain how to pay for it Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #9

Fine. Go ahead and join Trump and FOX News in calling any liberal program just 'free stuff'. pampango Mar 2020 #12

I am just asking a simple question - How do you pay for these programs? Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #13

If you want a society like Germany or Sweden, you should probably do what they do. pampango Mar 2020 #16

Well, now we are getting somewhere Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #17

FDR did not campaign on a 90% tax rate. pampango Mar 2020 #22

Thank you for an honest answer and a realistic approach Hav Mar 2020 #21

His problem is he makes big promises before he gets elected. brush Mar 2020 #53

CNN-Sanders' agenda: Its cost -- possibly $60 trillion -- would set a peacetime US record Gothmog Mar 2020 #42

Military budget for one delisen Mar 2020 #7

OK, so how much will these programs cost? Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #10

"I don't have to answer YOUR questions!" Grokenstein Mar 2020 #8

If you already have employer paid health insurance, why wouldn't your employer Meadowoak Mar 2020 #11

I have Medicare now and I have co pays Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #14

Sanders still won't be honest with the American people about how much his plans cost Gothmog Mar 2020 #43

By making the rich pay for it of course budkin Mar 2020 #18

Sounds good but you have to back it up with numbers - you can't just point at Daddy Warbucks Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #20

That is simply not a serious policy proposal Hav Mar 2020 #23

It works just fine in almost every other civilized nation budkin Mar 2020 #24

Yeah, it works by paying it with your taxes! Hav Mar 2020 #25

Obviously we would be paying for it through our taxes... but the rich would pay the bigger share budkin Mar 2020 #27

Nothing wrong with those who earn more paying more in absolute terms Hav Mar 2020 #28

No one ever said MFA would be free. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #26

Exactly budkin Mar 2020 #29

And that is silly, and could be seen as playing to the GOP line of attack. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #30

He makes it look like rich people can be taxed confiscatorily NYMinute Mar 2020 #31

If we go all 'FDR' on the rich, I think we can fund liberal programs. He did. pampango Mar 2020 #32

FDR did it in a depressed economy when the government's revenues had dwindled NYMinute Mar 2020 #33

FDR funded his programs when 'government revenues had dwindled'? pampango Mar 2020 #34

I didn't type that did I? NYMinute Mar 2020 #35

So the economy was nearly bankrupt and the government had not money for FDR. pampango Mar 2020 #36

Our economy is in deficit spending NYMinute Mar 2020 #37

"There is no extra money." I hope that is not Biden's mantra. pampango Mar 2020 #39

We are arguing in circles. NYMinute Mar 2020 #45

Here's how much a Bernie Sanders presidency would cost Gothmog Mar 2020 #41

As FDR said if people are suffering, try something. If that doesn't work try something else. pampango Mar 2020 #44

That does not work in the real world Gothmog Mar 2020 #46

He is not going to be president but, if he were elected with his well-known liberal policy pampango Mar 2020 #47

There is a reason why sanders has zero legislative accomplishments Gothmog Mar 2020 #48

We all know he is too liberal of a senator to get his ideas passed. pampango Mar 2020 #49

If sanders was the nominee, trump would win 45+ statews and Kevin McCarthy would be Speaker Gothmog Mar 2020 #50

I bow to your superior insight into the unelectability of Sanders. pampango Mar 2020 #51

Sanders has yet to explain how he'll pay for half of his agenda - Gothmog Mar 2020 #40

We're about to find out just how inadequate what passes dflprincess Mar 2020 #52