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Gothmog

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41. Here's how much a Bernie Sanders presidency would cost
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:27 PM
Mar 2020



If you ever wondered how much Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) vast array of policy proposals would cost, we now have a reasonably good estimate from his own staff. The answer is about $50 trillion over the next decade. Sanders may or may not be a “democratic socialist” — whatever that means — but he clearly is a soak-the-rich radical who would dramatically expand the government’s role, from cradle to grave.

Whether most Americans prefer Sanders’s statist agenda to the alleged abuses of corporations and Wall Street (the notorious “top 1 percent”) is what defines this election. Whatever the case, Sanders is proposing a hugely expensive transformation.

Let’s examine the $50 trillion. The list below shows various spending programs that Sanders has proposed, with one important exception: The first item on the list is the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the deficits under existing policies for the next decade. That figure is $13.1 trillion.

Sanders’s Spending, 2021-2030:
1. Deficits under existing policies: $13.1 trillion
2. “Free” college for all and the cancellation of existing student debt: $2.2 trillion
3. Expand Social Security and other retirement benefits: $1.4 trillion (estimated by the Progressive Policy Institute)
4. Housing for all: $2.5 trillion
5. Eliminating household medical debt: $81 billion
6. Green New Deal (programs to stop global warming): $16.3 trillion
7. Universal child care and preschool: $1.5 trillion
8. Medicare-for-all: $17.5 trillion
Total: $54.6 trillion

The problem is that sanders has no idea as to how pay for these progarms
“Sanders’s proposals won’t raise nearly as much money as he thinks they will,” says Howard Gleckman of the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. “Even if they did, they won’t pay for everything he wants.”
For example, Sanders proposes a wealth tax on taxpayers with a net worth (assets minus liabilities) of $32 million or more. The tax would gradually rise from 1 percent up to 8 percent on fortunes exceeding $10 billion. Sanders estimates this would raise $4.35 trillion over a decade.

Not likely, says Gleckman. About half of the wealth of the rich is contained in privately held businesses that, unlike publicly traded stocks, are hard to value. He thinks the tax would raise far less than expected. “Rich people won’t stand by and pay taxes,” he says.
“They will hire expensive lawyers to avoid taxes.” Similar problems would erode revenue from a proposed tax on financial transactions, he says.

Even with some added tax revenue, there still would be a $25 trillion gap between Sanders’s spending plans and an equivalent amount of new tax revenue, says analyst Ben Ritz of the PPI. Federal spending would approach 40 percent of gross domestic product, up from about 20 percent now.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Socialist math. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #1
Here's one: "Inasmuch your mother died of heart disease when she was 46.... George II Mar 2020 #2
tax the rich. nationalize businesses? Aint that the play out of the socialist playbook? beachbumbob Mar 2020 #3
The Sanders campaign is like an old time medicine show mindem Mar 2020 #4
They were called snake charmers. William769 Mar 2020 #38
This is the problem I have when they keep showing the m4a exit poll number Claustrum Mar 2020 #5
First no. squirecam Mar 2020 #15
well Claustrum Mar 2020 #19
It ain't 'free stuff'. Europeans have it. It ain't 'free'. They just choose to pay for pampango Mar 2020 #6
It is "free stuff" until you explain how to pay for it Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #9
Fine. Go ahead and join Trump and FOX News in calling any liberal program just 'free stuff'. pampango Mar 2020 #12
I am just asking a simple question - How do you pay for these programs? Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #13
If you want a society like Germany or Sweden, you should probably do what they do. pampango Mar 2020 #16
Well, now we are getting somewhere Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #17
FDR did not campaign on a 90% tax rate. pampango Mar 2020 #22
Thank you for an honest answer and a realistic approach Hav Mar 2020 #21
His problem is he makes big promises before he gets elected. brush Mar 2020 #53
CNN-Sanders' agenda: Its cost -- possibly $60 trillion -- would set a peacetime US record Gothmog Mar 2020 #42
Military budget for one delisen Mar 2020 #7
OK, so how much will these programs cost? Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #10
"I don't have to answer YOUR questions!" Grokenstein Mar 2020 #8
If you already have employer paid health insurance, why wouldn't your employer Meadowoak Mar 2020 #11
I have Medicare now and I have co pays Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #14
Sanders still won't be honest with the American people about how much his plans cost Gothmog Mar 2020 #43
By making the rich pay for it of course budkin Mar 2020 #18
Sounds good but you have to back it up with numbers - you can't just point at Daddy Warbucks Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #20
That is simply not a serious policy proposal Hav Mar 2020 #23
It works just fine in almost every other civilized nation budkin Mar 2020 #24
Yeah, it works by paying it with your taxes! Hav Mar 2020 #25
Obviously we would be paying for it through our taxes... but the rich would pay the bigger share budkin Mar 2020 #27
Nothing wrong with those who earn more paying more in absolute terms Hav Mar 2020 #28
No one ever said MFA would be free. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #26
Exactly budkin Mar 2020 #29
And that is silly, and could be seen as playing to the GOP line of attack. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #30
He makes it look like rich people can be taxed confiscatorily NYMinute Mar 2020 #31
If we go all 'FDR' on the rich, I think we can fund liberal programs. He did. pampango Mar 2020 #32
FDR did it in a depressed economy when the government's revenues had dwindled NYMinute Mar 2020 #33
FDR funded his programs when 'government revenues had dwindled'? pampango Mar 2020 #34
I didn't type that did I? NYMinute Mar 2020 #35
So the economy was nearly bankrupt and the government had not money for FDR. pampango Mar 2020 #36
Our economy is in deficit spending NYMinute Mar 2020 #37
"There is no extra money." I hope that is not Biden's mantra. pampango Mar 2020 #39
We are arguing in circles. NYMinute Mar 2020 #45
Here's how much a Bernie Sanders presidency would cost Gothmog Mar 2020 #41
As FDR said if people are suffering, try something. If that doesn't work try something else. pampango Mar 2020 #44
That does not work in the real world Gothmog Mar 2020 #46
He is not going to be president but, if he were elected with his well-known liberal policy pampango Mar 2020 #47
There is a reason why sanders has zero legislative accomplishments Gothmog Mar 2020 #48
We all know he is too liberal of a senator to get his ideas passed. pampango Mar 2020 #49
If sanders was the nominee, trump would win 45+ statews and Kevin McCarthy would be Speaker Gothmog Mar 2020 #50
I bow to your superior insight into the unelectability of Sanders. pampango Mar 2020 #51
Sanders has yet to explain how he'll pay for half of his agenda - Gothmog Mar 2020 #40
We're about to find out just how inadequate what passes dflprincess Mar 2020 #52
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