Democratic Primaries

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts) Mon Mar 16, 2020, 06:21 AM Mar 2020

NY Times: "you have a single-payer system in Italy ..." pretty much took care of the MFA discussion... [View all]

The huge question was whether Biden would stumble, fall into one of those oh-whoops-sorry moments. And he didn’t! Made perfectly rational arguments on every point. That’s really all he needed. So he won. The Democratic Party clearly prefers Biden and just needed to be reassured Sunday night that nothing disastrous was going to happen. Don’t know that it’s fair, but the “you have a single-payer system in Italy …” comeback pretty much took care of the Medicare for All argument for the evening...

... The smartest move Biden made in the debate — other than committing to a female running mate — was tying revolution to disruption. At a moment when the world’s been turned upside down, he offered to flip it right side up, not shake it up more. His reassurances send a powerful general-election message — and why he won the debate.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/16/opinion/democratic-debate-winners-losers.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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NY Times: "you have a single-payer system in Italy ..." pretty much took care of the MFA discussion... [View all] wyldwolf Mar 2020 OP

I'm just glad he promised to ban fracking. Bernie got him to commit to that. jimfields33 Mar 2020 #1

All well and good but fracking is going to ban itself through bankruptcy bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #2

One opinion I've seen a lot of is that Russia opening the taps and forcing SA to... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #16

Fracking is already banned in NY eilen Mar 2020 #3

KR!! TY, Wyldwolf Cha Mar 2020 #4

"His reassurances send a powerful general-election message -- and why he won the debate." NurseJackie Mar 2020 #5

Biden used a fatuous, right wing talking point wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #6

And Bernie BRILLIANTLY countered it .... Oh wait .... he had nothing. Maybe THAT should be your OnDoutside Mar 2020 #9

Sanders did have a response wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #14

"what experts tell us", is of the "I met a man who told me" variety. What Biden said is correct,that OnDoutside Mar 2020 #19

Biden said Italy's health care system didn't work wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #20

Biden didn't say that Italy's healthcare system didn't work. Blue_true Mar 2020 #22

This is Biden's exact quote: wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #24

Biden was using it doesn't work to respond to the claim that Sanders Blue_true Mar 2020 #28

Under Obamacare wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #34

Biden proposed free testing and medical care, specifically aimed at the Blue_true Mar 2020 #36

So in order to save the current system wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #38

Not to save the system, to save lives. Blue_true Mar 2020 #39

They're not rolling out the public option to fight the disease wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #40

Did you read what I wrote? The emergency measures save lives. Blue_true Mar 2020 #42

TY! Cleared that up. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #31

Bernie tried to relate the crisis to the system treestar Mar 2020 #7

Single-payer nothing to do with it. SKorea& China have single payer & they've got a lid on Covid-19 Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #8

K&R +1 turbinetree Mar 2020 #10

Two things work (US has neither): 1) Early strenuous reaction and 2) Great healthcare system. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #11

Yepper spot on.................... turbinetree Mar 2020 #12

South Korea, yea mostly. Who knows with China. But, your point is correct... SKKY Mar 2020 #13

Biden is basically offering M4A when it comes to the coronavirus wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #15

Yes, unfortunately! iwannaknow Mar 2020 #18

Biden is talking about an emergency declaration, that gets past Congress, Blue_true Mar 2020 #23

Like I said, Medicare For All For Those Who Wants Coronavirus wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #25

Reality keeps flying past you. Blue_true Mar 2020 #29

So Single Payer Is Not To Blame wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #32

Biden simply pointed out that Single Payer didn't work the Blue_true Mar 2020 #33

How many tests has Italy done? wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #35

My comparison was Italy to South Korea. Blue_true Mar 2020 #37

So single payer to compensate for our failed system wellst0nev0ter Mar 2020 #41

I have no idea what point you are trying to make. Blue_true Mar 2020 #43

There are other factors at play in Italy iwannaknow Mar 2020 #17

We're about to hear capitalism roar underpants Mar 2020 #26

The fact that M43A couldn't deal with the outbreak of a pandemic is hardly proof of anythihg. pampango Mar 2020 #21

I hated when he said that. It made me cringe. Politicub Mar 2020 #27

Biden's point was that Italy's system alone is inadequate to deal with the virus Blue_true Mar 2020 #30