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NNadir

(34,898 posts)
46. Well as a boomer myself...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020

...I find this response sort of typical of what we can expect, placing us in the category of the Boomer-in-Chief, the self congratulating toilet paper depletion expert.

Let's see...um...oh yes...

Millennials with a B.A. on the average make 100,000 +per year. No they are not all saddled with debt they can not pay, though millennials’ main debt is credit card. Expanding forgiveness programs, getting them functional, discharging in bankruptcy and other interventions aside from paying everyone’s college debt, can go a long way to lifting the burden where needed.


Just say "there's no problem" by making something up...and boom...boom...boomer...we're in magic land.

You know, my son, aged 20, is a materials science engineering student at a very good university." The sticker price on his education approximates a quarter of a million dollars, maybe a little more when you add incidentals like books and fees.

Now because of his outstanding grades in high school - he is by the way much smarter than I am and certainly much smarter than 90% of the boomers here who risk injuring themselves and needing rotator cuff surgery because of agressively patting themselves on the back for how wonderful we are - the University made him a very generous offer filled with impressive grants, but no, it wasn't all covered. Now, as it happens, except for one course that is required and is only offered in a spring semester, he will have enough credits to graduate in 3 years, not four. I

So before starting, and before deciding which school to attend, he took out a small loan at a bank, and we sat down, calculated the likely payments after 4 years, and then looked up the expected starting salary for his work.

It wasn't, um, $100,000 year. It was $61,000 mean.

Now the engineering students who didn't get grants on the scale he received could be looking at a quarter million dollars in debt. For engineers...

Engineers are people who make the world work. Imagine starting your career, after four grueling years of intense study in a world where a small house might cost $300,000 and a decent car $20,000, and looking at that kind of debt.

Really did any of us baby boomer assholes look at that kind of thing, school debts the equivalent of a house?

Now mind you, there are some privileged children who are in the Ivanka class, and will have Daddies and Mommies with connections to bring them into MBA land and work in the family tradition of living being paid huge sums for shuffling papers and screwing the shit out of everyone else.

When you make these assertions, I have the distinct impression that you're mimicing another baby boomer person talking about a subject he knows nothing about.

To wit:

Trump assured Americans at that February 26 news conference that the number of people infected in the United States is "going very substantially down, not up." Trump even bragged about the 15 cases at the time on US soil, claiming that "the 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero."


God forbid we should think anything unpleasant about reality, and if someone tries to the force the issue, we'll simply make up an ersatz fact with no reference, no support, and insist it's true.

Now, these kids will write the history of our generation. Since they are smarter than we are, more highly analytical, deeper, and more profound they're not going to listen to our excuses, including excuses about putative stolen elections. If we were a decent generation it wouldn't have been close enough to steal.

Of all the Presidents you listed claiming we elected them, one one truly rose to a level of greatness; that would be President Obama. He was elected, in my opinion not because of baby boomers, but because he inspired another long unjustly denigrated demographic, African Americans, another time they saved our asses.

President Clinton was a reasonably good President, but in typical "Sex, drugs and Rock and Roll" fashion, he squandered his legacy on a dalliance with a 19 year old woman when he knew that the vicious baby boomer Republicans, Newt Gingrich and that ilk, were gunning for his ass on exactly that score, dalliances with women.

He would have served his country better by keeping his pants on.

Jimmy Carter was a good man, particularly after leaving office, but you know, that Baby Boomer thirst for our cars made gasoline a big issue, hence while speaking of human rights, he kissed up to Reza Pahlavi, the "Shah," who's Savak police were torturing people literally to death.

Al Gore, correctly drew our attention to Climate Change, and perhaps suffered for the hype about the dalliance, but frankly his putative solutions to the problem, so called "renewable energy" have not worked, are not working and won't work, baby boomer affection for them notwithstanding.

And let's face it, because we did very little to correct a culture that commoditized women based on their looks on one hand, and demonized women of high intelligence, we bear responsibility for the 2016 election.

I remind you, with whatever respect you may be due, that the child caging beast in the White House, the avatar of arrogance, contempt, and the celebration and promotion of ignorance and lies has his highest level of support among people born before 1955.

Last night my millennial son was in his room, in conference with his colleagues discussing how they might advance their project - the development of sustainable, cheap, easy to use HIV tests that could be freely distributed in the third world - when their campus is shut because an orange baby boomer, like the rest of our generation, wasn't paying fucking attention.

Again, those kids, doing that, they will write our history. Since they are very smart, very alive, very aware, and since they will have hell to pay for what we and not they have done, it is very unlikely they will forgive us. They shouldn't. Dripping with contempt for them as we do all over this website, contempt for our future I can understand why they're disengaged from our stupid spin or reality.

An no, that old tired senile screw ball in his Che Guevara tee shirt might think he can claim to speak for them, but like the rest of us, he's just clueless.

Have a nice evening.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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People are voting [View all] sheshe2 Mar 2020 OP
Thank you people. I know it is hard. I would too. Risk for this is not too high. LizBeth Mar 2020 #1
Well said, she.. Brave Souls to Polls! Cha Mar 2020 #2
is this a good thing? Shouldn't primary voting be more agile so these folks DON'T have to put their Pillow talk Mar 2020 #3
Well, it might be better if young aren't there because LisaL Mar 2020 #6
"We're sorry your loved one died a horrible death, but they got to vote 3 months early... PoliticAverse Mar 2020 #9
People can and do take precautions NCProgressive Mar 2020 #21
Welp. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #10
even though this is true my point still stands. in fact we, as a society, didn't help those folks Pillow talk Mar 2020 #14
Please don't feel bad. Sanders would have still lost. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #22
i don't and yes. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #25
Florida has vote by mail (if voters chose) and early voting csziggy Mar 2020 #15
i don't believe in free will. for me, your point is meaningless. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #16
Without free will what's the point in voting? csziggy Mar 2020 #17
no. we are a sum of our experiences. to this very moment in time. you, me everyone. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #18
What's even more important is the systems in place to direct us one way or the other. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #19
The systems are in place - people have to make choices csziggy Mar 2020 #24
i pretty much agree with this. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #30
You don't believe in free will? Sorry, sounds crazy to me Walleye Mar 2020 #35
Its hardly crazy. do a little research and it may surprise you. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #47
Well that's Rebl2 Mar 2020 #23
My sympathies csziggy Mar 2020 #28
+1000 llmart Mar 2020 #26
Thank you and bravo! The elders carry the revolution. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #4
We were and still are the Revolution. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #11
+1 llmart Mar 2020 #27
Yeah we were just the best. We increased the concentration... NNadir Mar 2020 #42
Millennials with a B.A. on the average make 100,000 +per year. No they are not all saddled with emmaverybo Mar 2020 #44
Well as a boomer myself... NNadir Mar 2020 #46
God bless them . They are the patriots. I wish all could vote by mail. apcalc Mar 2020 #5
the youth are NOT just sitting around.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #7
True. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #12
And yet the young voters are STILL not showing up! George II Mar 2020 #8
That is my point. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #13
They are coming out to vote for Biden NCProgressive Mar 2020 #20
Have a question if states delay too much how can biden reach the 1990 delegates FloridaBlues Mar 2020 #29
It is Joe who is increasing voter turnout Gothmog Mar 2020 #31
Hopefully the young people will come out in November lunatica Mar 2020 #32
History says they won't Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #34
Trump's horrid response to the pandemic probably put some fire under people's butts, too. C Moon Mar 2020 #33
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!!! tavernier Mar 2020 #36
We keep doing the heavy lifting. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #38
Oddly I remember joining many protests in the 60 - 70's tavernier Mar 2020 #41
Thank you, courageous voters! nt spooky3 Mar 2020 #37
I voted today (Illinois) MustLoveBeagles Mar 2020 #39
I voted early for Biden in GA. before KKKemp delayed the primary. N/T CottonBear Mar 2020 #40
K&R! rogue emissary Mar 2020 #43
Candidates who has dropped out (others) are leading Bernie Sanders in Florida. Gothmog Mar 2020 #45
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