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BlueCheese

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Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:35 AM Mar 2020

Why some of the far left has lost all credibility [View all]

I was feeling upset today about the sexual assault accusations from some of Bernie Sanders' allies against Joe Biden, and the effect it might have on party unity for the fall. I was also wondering why I don't really find the accusations very plausible, even though the last few years have taught us that victims often don't tell their stories for years, and that many people you might not suspect have been shown to be harassers or worse.

But it came to me when I was checking Twitter (yes, a bad habit) to see if there was anything new, and I came across the latest bizarre conspiracy theory being pushed by a few loud voices on the far left-- namely, that Biden's recent TV appearances have all been recorded in front of green screens, apparently to hide the fact that he's ill, or deceased, or otherwise incapacitated. If this needed any debunking, it was thoroughly done so tonight when his home studio setup was shown on the Jimmy Kimmel show.

It was then that I realized that this part of the far left has been pushing one discredited conspiracy theory after another for the last five years. To hear them tell it, you'd have to think that

(1) Hillary Clinton had Parkinson's in 2016. (Nobody mentions that anymore. Presumably she made a remarkable recovery.),
(2) Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC to cover up that he, not the Russians, were responsible for the DNC email hack,
(3) Joe Biden has dementia and can barely stand up. (This one lost steam after the Biden-Sanders 1-on-1 debate.),
(4) A media that had all but buried Joe Biden after New Hampshire and Nevada was secretly in the tank for him the whole time,
(5) The "establishment" sabotaged Bernie Sanders by forcing candidates with no chance of winning to drop out after South Carolina, and
(6) well, you get the idea.

So when a claim of sexual assault is made by one anti-Biden person, in an interview by another anti-Biden person, and the signal is then boosted pretty much only by other anti-Biden people (along with a few gleeful Republicans), one might wearily think that this is simply the next one in a chain of hard-to-believe conspiracy theories.

The sad thing, of course, is that sexual harassment and sexual assault are serious issues, that should be taken seriously in the great majority of cases. It's possible that despite the holes in the story that the accuser is telling the truth. But the people pushing this have too many obvious ulterior motives, and way too much history, to believe them right off the bat. They've simply cried wolf far too many times.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I imagine it's likely only a matter of time before Biden is asked about this. BlueCheese Mar 2020 #1
are you replying to yourself? Skittles Mar 2020 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author hangaleft Mar 2020 #2
You bring up a good point. BlueCheese Mar 2020 #3
Give it up. "The Left" has peddled every one of the conspiracy theories (lies)... Hekate Mar 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author hangaleft Mar 2020 #5
Her post is dead on.. whether you acknowledge it or Not. Cha Mar 2020 #7
Well said. And that's why giving in to demands Sanders might make, OnDoutside Mar 2020 #6
Yes it is.. and of course it's Cha Mar 2020 #8
Yes, the outrage is vehement, and appears coordinated ? OnDoutside Mar 2020 #10
More like Cha Mar 2020 #11
Thank you, Hekate.. Spot ON! Cha Mar 2020 #9
The odd thing is one will come across more folks stating these CTs to bash PufPuf23 Mar 2020 #12
We can see who is who ya know. showblue22 Mar 2020 #26
Sanders killed the left with his divisive campaign and made the left a pariah NCProgressive Mar 2020 #29
If you go left far enough, you will come around to the far right. CountMyVote4Reality Mar 2020 #13
Oh boy do i catch hell every time i point that out! oldsoftie Mar 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author hangaleft Mar 2020 #14
PLEASE feel free to define "far left" Skittles Mar 2020 #15
Yes. We absolutely need to start definiing our terms whathehell Mar 2020 #18
It depends on who you ask. oldsoftie Mar 2020 #23
and trolls think ALL liberals are "far left" Skittles Mar 2020 #24
Yeah, they're adopting the methods of the rightwing too. KitSileya Mar 2020 #16
+1 ucrdem Mar 2020 #21
To add to that, Hav Mar 2020 #17
The 5 pts you assign to the far left are all RIGHT WING talking points. Lots of bots & moles. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #19
Yes, and all of them have been adopted by Bernie Bros ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #31
The list is a long one and goes waaaay back. ucrdem Mar 2020 #20
Yep. Just one. nolawarlock Mar 2020 #32
If you've been sexually assaulted by Biden, why tell only one journalistic source? Yavin4 Mar 2020 #27
Absolutely BGBD Mar 2020 #28
You mention holes in her story Kerrycrat Mar 2020 #30
How about ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #33
I take that back. nolawarlock Mar 2020 #34
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