Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search

Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Why Don't Bernie Voters Matter? [View all]Gothmog
(161,616 posts)166. How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary
sanders was appealing only to 30% of the party and after South Carolina the rest of the party moved to Joe Biden to stop sanders.
Link to tweet
Rarely has political momentum flipped as quickly as it did in the first half of March, as Mr. Sanders lost serious ground to Mr. Biden before the coronavirus slowed their race. There are well-known reasons for the shift: Moderate candidates like Mr. Buttigieg and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota rallied around Mr. Biden. He enjoyed demographic advantages, particularly with black voters. And turnout among young voters and liberal nonvoters did not surge, failing to reshape the electorate as Mr. Sanders had hoped.
But beyond ideology, race and turnout, a chief reason for Mr. Biden’s success has little to do with his candidacy. He became a vehicle for Democrats like Ms. King who were supporting other candidates but found the prospect of Mr. Sanders and his calls for political revolution so distasteful that they put aside misgivings about Mr. Biden and backed him instead.
In phone interviews, dozens of Democrats, mostly aged 50 and over, who live in key March primary states like Massachusetts, Virginia, Michigan and Florida, said that Mr. Biden’s appeal went beyond his case for beating President Trump. It was his chances of overtaking Mr. Sanders, the only candidate in the vast Democratic field they found objectionable for reasons personal and political.....
These voters’ willingness to unite against Mr. Sanders helped Democratic Party leaders stave off his insurgent campaign and has made Mr. Biden the all-but-certain Democratic nominee. The convergence behind Mr. Biden also highlights a critical difference between this year’s primary and what happened to the Republican Party in 2016. Four years ago, establishment Republicans were openly skeptical of Mr. Trump after his victories in early primary states, but a fractured field and split primary vote allowed him to amass an insurmountable delegate lead, reshaping the party in the process.....
Ahead of Mr. Sanders’s presidential run in 2020, his campaign did not concern itself with smoothing tensions among voters who supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. He did not seek the endorsements of many party leaders, who were always unlikely to back him, but could have been swayed from being openly antagonistic to ambivalent.
As a result, after a strong finish in Iowa and wins in New Hampshire and Nevada, Mr. Sanders did not benefit from an assumed truth of presidential campaigns: that early-state victories help bring in voters from other factions. Instead, people like Lori Boerner of McLean, Va., said Mr. Sanders’s performance sent them searching for a candidate who could stop his rise, and after the South Carolina primary, they landed on Mr. Biden.
But beyond ideology, race and turnout, a chief reason for Mr. Biden’s success has little to do with his candidacy. He became a vehicle for Democrats like Ms. King who were supporting other candidates but found the prospect of Mr. Sanders and his calls for political revolution so distasteful that they put aside misgivings about Mr. Biden and backed him instead.
In phone interviews, dozens of Democrats, mostly aged 50 and over, who live in key March primary states like Massachusetts, Virginia, Michigan and Florida, said that Mr. Biden’s appeal went beyond his case for beating President Trump. It was his chances of overtaking Mr. Sanders, the only candidate in the vast Democratic field they found objectionable for reasons personal and political.....
These voters’ willingness to unite against Mr. Sanders helped Democratic Party leaders stave off his insurgent campaign and has made Mr. Biden the all-but-certain Democratic nominee. The convergence behind Mr. Biden also highlights a critical difference between this year’s primary and what happened to the Republican Party in 2016. Four years ago, establishment Republicans were openly skeptical of Mr. Trump after his victories in early primary states, but a fractured field and split primary vote allowed him to amass an insurmountable delegate lead, reshaping the party in the process.....
Ahead of Mr. Sanders’s presidential run in 2020, his campaign did not concern itself with smoothing tensions among voters who supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. He did not seek the endorsements of many party leaders, who were always unlikely to back him, but could have been swayed from being openly antagonistic to ambivalent.
As a result, after a strong finish in Iowa and wins in New Hampshire and Nevada, Mr. Sanders did not benefit from an assumed truth of presidential campaigns: that early-state victories help bring in voters from other factions. Instead, people like Lori Boerner of McLean, Va., said Mr. Sanders’s performance sent them searching for a candidate who could stop his rise, and after the South Carolina primary, they landed on Mr. Biden.
The vast bulk of the party does not like sanders which is why Joe Biden is going to the nominee

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
179 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations

Richard Viguerie Was Making Speeches to This Effect, Sir, In Reagan's Time
The Magistrate
Mar 2020
#110
I first heard Paul Weyrich's name back in 2004 at a training session in Florida
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#123
Thank you Gothmog, I'm in Texas and a few things about the TxGOP vote supression.
Sunlei
Mar 2020
#121
They Need To Be Prevented From Lending Themselves To Bernie's' Blackmail, Sir
The Magistrate
Mar 2020
#9
"When advised that his third-party candidacy might result in a Republican victory,
ehrnst
Apr 2020
#165
Why don't Biden voters matter? Why doesn't that fact that Biden has 300 more delegates
pnwmom
Mar 2020
#7
i am more than willing to unite behind joe but i also have asked for an explanation
questionseverything
Mar 2020
#45
so what exactly is the public option gonna cost,what will it cover,who will get subsidies, like that
questionseverything
Mar 2020
#54
m4a is medicare on steroids..they just called it medicare because peops were familiar with the term
questionseverything
Mar 2020
#61
Ask Elizabeth Warren. She was smart enough to know that Medicare was constructed
pnwmom
Mar 2020
#103
If Bernie were the candidate we don't know what plan he'd be trying to sell in the general.
pnwmom
Apr 2020
#179
The so-called 30% were heard in the primaries already taken place. They didn't prevail.
brush
Mar 2020
#88
They do matter. Just not as much as the majority of voters.Why should the opinions of ...
marble falls
Mar 2020
#13
I find it hard to equate the trevails of the Bernie only's and the struggle of people of ...
marble falls
Mar 2020
#58
Are you paying the race card? . This African American wants BS to bugger off
Dream Girl
Mar 2020
#101
I'm resentful of what you fuckers did to Hillary & John Lewis; we aren't putting up with it now.
NBachers
Mar 2020
#16
If Sanders is not nominee, they won't vote or vote Trump. Or, the will be a part of blue wave.
LizBeth
Mar 2020
#24
They do, but right now a lot of people are thinking about other things right now.
33taw
Mar 2020
#32
Some of his platform? When asked how his student debt policy was different from Warren's,
betsuni
Mar 2020
#39
Some of his platform is being considered but that's not the problem ...
TreasonousBastard
Mar 2020
#56
When 15% of Sanders supporters say they will vote for trump if Biden is the nominee
still_one
Mar 2020
#67
Every voice HAS been considered. BSs has been considered and REJECTED by the majority.
Squinch
Mar 2020
#120
It is not a huge percentage...and Sanders never did expand his base...less votes than last time
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#97
Also, "For some reason." Have you heard the shit coming out against Biden from BS followers?
Squinch
Mar 2020
#119
In my dreams I'd like to see Biden pick Sanders as VP, because he excluded a male then Hillary!
Sunlei
Mar 2020
#122
Lotsa answers here and I don;t see many replies from the OP. Shit-stirring?
Happy Hoosier
Mar 2020
#125
I think a large percentage of Sanders supporters are not really dedicated Democrats.
honest.abe
Mar 2020
#136
Didn't Bernie get a LOT of say in the 2016 Democratic Party Platform?
Proud Liberal Dem
Mar 2020
#155