Democratic Primaries

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58. We should work towards a universal care plan. M4A, however is not necessarily the best universal...

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 11:03 PM

Apr 2020

care option. You do know as presently constituted, Medicare only pays for 80% of medical costs.

And to be successful at anything we have to win the WH and the Senate, plus keep the House.

A more comprehensive system is more desirable IMO. And it you know anything about this country, there will have to be a transition period to universal care as even some Dems will be reluctant to upturn everything, not to mention all the jobs in the insurance, medical and pharma industries that would be lost. The public option would be that transition period.

Not rocket science. We have to have the WH, Senate and House to just get to a public option first.
The public option would be a component to the ACA, which can be revised and improved until we get to a universal care system. And FYI, even in countries with universal care, there are costs for services, nowhere near what we pay here but nothing is entirely free.

And taxes will be much higher.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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#BidenDebateBernie is trending on twitter right now [View all] Takket Apr 2020 OP

Fuck 'em relayerbob Apr 2020 #1

They are right Biden and his surrogates Legends303 Apr 2020 #2

Biden isn't scared, he just doesn't want to waste his time or ours The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #5

Bernie and his surrogates need to quit acting like he is still a candidate. PubliusEnigma Apr 2020 #11

Why does this make me think of the Monty Python knight with no arms and no legs? Squinch Apr 2020 #12

Makes me think... TwilightZone Apr 2020 #22

Me too. nt TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #59

Lol...before the last debate you were suggesting Biden needed to show he wasn't "weak" Docreed2003 Apr 2020 #16

Biden is not going to debate...the primary is over. He is busy getting ready to take Trump on and Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #20

And Sanders running after Biden when he has no path mathematically pleading for a debate Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #21

11 debates but who's counting? BidenBacker Apr 2020 #23

Not me clearly, I had no idea how many there were...I only watched a couple... Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #26

No cut the right-wing lies rockfordfile Apr 2020 #24

They are WRONG.. Nobody is "scared".. BS comes from a place of Weakness.. Biden Cha Apr 2020 #29

Stop The Baiting...No One Is Scared Of the Pointy Finger Me. Apr 2020 #38

One Of The More Nonesensical Lines Pressed In The 'Bernie-Verse', Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #39

Have you noticed that more and more Bernie Supporters click "undecided"? grantcart Apr 2020 #79

It Is Pretty Obvious Usually, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #80

Ahhh...they just had a debate and Sanders got his clock cleaned. brush Apr 2020 #56

... sheshe2 Apr 2020 #73

Lololololol.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #84

SCOREBOARD! HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #86

No it makes Sanders look desperate...and reinforces that he has lost the primary. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #87

No LizBeth Apr 2020 #3

Biden isn't afraid to debate Sanders - he slaughtered him in the last debate, I'm sure he'd love.... George II Apr 2020 #4

Yes, JB "gave a strong performance in the latest debate, projecting "confidence and competence.. Cha Apr 2020 #42

With Bernie and Joe talking some of the public will be able to hear the truth for a change... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #6

No more debates...the primary is over. Sanders needs to suspend. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #19

Ok, so you have an opinion. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #30

How condescending. That's obvious. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #35

Well, when I read the writing on the wall, I get... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #40

Oh geez. I see you might have missed this type of thread LakeArenal Apr 2020 #41

We should work towards a universal care plan. M4A, however is not necessarily the best universal... brush Apr 2020 #58

My original post wasn't about M4A, (that would be "Medicare for All" for those who don't keep up... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #62

About this statement. brush Apr 2020 #64

You are correct regarding Warren... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #67

We need to get there for sure, but why tip our hand before we get in position... brush Apr 2020 #69

Many say there is no difference between the parties. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #71

Ok, but remember, I'm for universal care also, but I'm pragmatic about how to get there. brush Apr 2020 #72

And maybe he is not because Medicare for all is never happening...the ACA with a public option Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #88

that's all ya got.. insults.. We're talking "no more debates" & you get personal. Cha Apr 2020 #45

I made an attempt to show there are differences of opinion here. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #47

All you did was insult.. it got lost when you went personal Cha Apr 2020 #48

Thank you for your participation. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #50

BS Lost and his surrogates are smearing Joe Biden.. So No.. Biden has much more important issues to Cha Apr 2020 #52

Everyone knows where these candidates stand on issues...if Sander and his issues were that popular, Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #89

We just had a debate. Biden won handily. brush Apr 2020 #57

Do you think the trumpvirus has brought up any new issues worth discussing in a debate? S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #63

I answered you in another post with this. brush Apr 2020 #65

I won't diss your points. They do work. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #68

Fair enough. You have to win though before you can do anything. brush Apr 2020 #70

No...nothing worth discussing...as the Congress and President will decide...Sanders has a role Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #90

Gaaaaah! mcar Apr 2020 #7

Bernie is like a little Yorkie nipping at Biden's ankles. PubliusEnigma Apr 2020 #8

No thanks. badhair77 Apr 2020 #9

Let's see now BidenBacker Apr 2020 #10

Wisdom Is Not In The Man, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #13

About damn time the DU second shift finally showed up! BidenBacker Apr 2020 #15

Glad You Appreciate It, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #25

Tammany's war on the progressive Civil Service heralded today's attacks on the "Deep State". Marcuse Apr 2020 #46

Not Particularly, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #49

Agreed, Sir. In either administration loyality trumps competence. Marcuse Apr 2020 #54

Thanks for the suggestion BidenBacker Apr 2020 #76

Enjoyable And Instructive, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #77

Nope vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #14

Mother Russia has sent out her troops.. and she has been busy! Peacetrain Apr 2020 #17

Don't give two fucks what Sanders supporters want...no more debates...no reason to risk either of Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #18

So... there's still a chance you give one fuck? LakeArenal Apr 2020 #37

Hahah...not even a 1/2 fuck... Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #91

Of course BS' supporters are saying that.. BS had his Cha Apr 2020 #27

Been there voteearlyvoteoften Apr 2020 #28

We need Democratic unity in November, so let's not start letting the tail wag the dog. Marcuse Apr 2020 #31

Bernie's twitter warriors who live in their own echo chamber GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #32

Some One Already Made My Comment on This Which is F*ck Them. Indykatie Apr 2020 #33

Bernie fans hope to goad Biden into a pointless debate. :) nt Sloumeau Apr 2020 #34

Most of These Aren't Real Bernie Supporters But Trolls Indykatie Apr 2020 #36

Twitter is a cesspool right now. Bernie Bros, trolls or Trumpsters? liberalmuse Apr 2020 #43

Bernie who? ucrdem Apr 2020 #44

How is this helpful? gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #51

it isn't meant to be Celerity Apr 2020 #75

Sorry Bernie Campaign....No Sale. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #53

NTSA. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2020 #55

NO. Joe should not give credence to any conspiracy BlueLucy Apr 2020 #60

It's a Democratic Debate. Bernie is NOT a Democrat. The End. Talitha Apr 2020 #61

Twitter is a shithole. BlueIdaho Apr 2020 #66

It's almost funny how they think anyone gives a damn what the say anymore nini Apr 2020 #74

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Apr 2020 #78

It's over Bernieites! Why waste time and money - the hand writing is on the wall. demosincebirth Apr 2020 #81

Scared??!?!! How many fucking times does he need to "debate" anyone? Vivienne235729 Apr 2020 #82

Excuse me while I plug in my BBCM. oasis Apr 2020 #83

Every one of them are bot accounts HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #85