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Blue_Tires

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75. I need DUers to please STOP this endless bullshit about "messaging"

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:36 PM

4 hrs ago

When Donnie's message was literally an endless loop of:

"Haitians eating your pets..."

"Mass deportations..."

"I'm the greatest person to ever do anything in recorded history!"

"Everything is rigged!"

"The weave..."

"30 million illegal Mexicans voted for Biden and that's why we need to deport them..."

"Military tribunals and firing squads for my political enemies..."

"Hannibal Lecter is having us for dinner..."

"I don't know what Harris' race is..."

"TARIFFS TARIFFS AND MORE TARIFFS WILL FIX EVERYTHING!!"

"I really admire Arnold Palmer's glorious white peener..."

When some smug smartassed pundit finally tells me WHY the blessed working class thought this was campaign strategy that earned their votes, maybe I'll give a serious listen to his criticisms of Harris and Biden...

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Exit polls reveal why Trump made huge gains with blue-collar union members [View all] SunSeeker 19 hrs ago OP

Revisit these voters in the coming years and let me know if they realize what they've done to themselves. NoMoreRepugs 18 hrs ago #1

And that 50% are the Trump voters... Septua 18 hrs ago #5

As long as there's a scapegoat or boogeyman to explain away the obvious Probatim 17 hrs ago #37

They are exactly in that shape Blue Full Moon 16 hrs ago #41

Good luck getting a law passed that only allows the "educated" people to vote DSandra 15 hrs ago #60

Forty years ago, or maybe even 20, it was allegedly "the Democrats" who were the "low-information voters", Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #80

..the No. 1 issue on the mind of working-class people...was inflation and the cost of living... Septua 18 hrs ago #2

That and the fact that markodochartaigh 17 hrs ago #26

THIS is the elephant (symbol) in the room. The media throws shade on the democrats EVERY TIME. BComplex 13 hrs ago #68

It was the sexism. Don't ever believe otherwise. valleyrogue 17 hrs ago #29

So 3 options going forward: kelly1mm 16 hrs ago #45

Or find a way to appeal to them without acquiescing to their grievances EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #63

Price freezes Blue Full Moon 16 hrs ago #42

The price gouging laws address significant price increases in areas with hurricanes or extended power outages etc. MichMan 16 hrs ago #55

Pandemic would fit right in then. Blue Full Moon 11 hrs ago #70

Not sure how many were ever prosecuted on a state or local level MichMan 10 hrs ago #71

It is about messaging: when and HOW messages are delivered Bluetus 16 hrs ago #43

I need DUers to please STOP this endless bullshit about "messaging" Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #75

This election proves beyond any doubt that Bluetus 3 hrs ago #79

So loud, angry buffoonery that's confident will always win out against quiet, drama-free competence? Blue_Tires 3 hrs ago #81

Oh, and welcome to DU... Blue_Tires 3 hrs ago #82

Why didn't Biden trumpet his achievements in terms of building factories in red areas? DSandra 15 hrs ago #61

Umm, if you have access to many experts and some of the best and brightest minds... DSandra 15 hrs ago #62

Apparently, they don't plan on retiring C_U_L8R 18 hrs ago #3

Union workers voting Republican Thrill 18 hrs ago #4

Shooting themselves in the foot to entertain their employer. Emile 18 hrs ago #10

I worked in union shops for over 40 years. I would say about 1/3 of the members doc03 17 hrs ago #15

Your description of union workers voting Republican was exactly what I saw. walkingman 3 hrs ago #83

As a retired union worker, I agree with your statement 100%. Prof. Toru Tanaka 16 hrs ago #52

It's all rationalizations for racism and sexism JT45242 18 hrs ago #6

Roll with that as the only reason we lost and we will keep on losing. Celerity 17 hrs ago #25

Yes can someone find the racial MotownPgh 17 hrs ago #30

Sounds like a cop out DSandra 15 hrs ago #64

Democrats should have been calling the inflation the Trump inflation from doc03 18 hrs ago #7

And BeerBarrelPolka 18 hrs ago #9

I will never understand why they think Trump will help the economy. Iris 18 hrs ago #8

Because the media has built Trump to be a great real estate doc03 17 hrs ago #13

Why does it have to be Ds fault Cosmocat 18 hrs ago #11

Because stupid people need to blame someone for their self-created problems. canuckledragger 17 hrs ago #14

Because Republican con artists exploit any weakness that Dems have DSandra 15 hrs ago #59

Finally, someone said it! Sorceress 15 hrs ago #65

Kamala was a black woman so her speaking on the issues JI7 18 hrs ago #12

There's not one reason but that was part of it. Passages 17 hrs ago #16

I guess the way they saw it, one candidate promised to miraculously bring down prices, the other one didn't. SunSeeker 17 hrs ago #21

I would not mistake too much of the culprit to those who watch Fox. Passages 16 hrs ago #51

And Biden did a lot on minimum wage bucolic_frolic 17 hrs ago #17

No. They cared only that a white, racist, valleyrogue 17 hrs ago #27

What did President Biden do on the minimum wage? Still the same $7.25 per hour federal kelly1mm 16 hrs ago #49

Trump didn't make any appeal to those voters except his racism bigtree 17 hrs ago #18

Excellent post! nt LittleGirl 17 hrs ago #19

You know, I bet during their "discussions" Aviation Pro 17 hrs ago #20

I was thinking the same thoughts. Prof. Toru Tanaka 16 hrs ago #56

Short. They loved the lies. usonian 17 hrs ago #22

We need a media DownriverDem 17 hrs ago #23

Baloney. valleyrogue 17 hrs ago #24

Yep Deminpenn 17 hrs ago #35

It was rigged. Meadowoak 17 hrs ago #28

They did the same thing against Carter when running against reagan, and one would have thought they learned there lesson JohnSJ 17 hrs ago #31

Real Wage Index came from below hell to slightly above it and they blamed Biden uponit7771 17 hrs ago #32

Enjoy the next 4 years, traitorous trump-voting union members. Paladin 17 hrs ago #33

Look, we democrats need Abstractartist 17 hrs ago #34

The economy IS setting records. Inflation, also, is NEVER ZERO. CousinIT 17 hrs ago #36

So much more utter BS. It was white supremacy. ananda 16 hrs ago #38

There might be a time get the red out 16 hrs ago #39

Only a small fraction of the blue collar class is unionized MichMan 16 hrs ago #40

With respect to inflation, they haven't seen anything yet. NNadir 16 hrs ago #44

Her race+her sex+his lies equals Mad King Donald's victory Dem4life1970 16 hrs ago #46

And a lot of Musk and Putin energy and money displacedvermoter 16 hrs ago #53

As always, their vote was in diametric opposition to their interests. dchill 16 hrs ago #47

Why didn't this powerful union member mention that Biden and Harris travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #48

Eggs cost too much Americanme 16 hrs ago #50

Our society forces many Americans to work, work, work... DSandra 15 hrs ago #58

The truth is Beck23 16 hrs ago #54

People tend to be blind to the lives of people outside their economic class, many don't realize how hard others have it DSandra 16 hrs ago #57

I don't know who Empower or PRNewswire is, but the The Fed has been keeping track of this information: W_HAMILTON 11 hrs ago #69

So you think the economic suffering is "all in our heads?" DSandra 5 hrs ago #72

Not in all of our heads, no. But in many of THEIR heads, yes. W_HAMILTON 5 hrs ago #73

The truth is that propaganda is extremely powerful Johnny2X2X 14 hrs ago #66

Couldn't agree more n/t dpibel 4 hrs ago #77

I hope a lesson learned is that ThePartyThatListens 14 hrs ago #67

The word Ted Pappageorge is looking for is "RACISM" Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #74

If inflation/cost of living was the key issue, why did vote for the candidate most likely to cause more inflation? LonePirate 4 hrs ago #76

OKAY, EXPLAIN IT TO ME LIKE I'M FIVE.... Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #78