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In reply to the discussion: Agree or disagree? [View all]

snot

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53. So, e.g., should everyone who wants to make the trip to the Moon
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 07:38 PM
Jan 2025

be sent, regardless of their qualifications?

I agree with Debs insofar as, right now, our society treats too many desirable things as if there's one pie that can only be divided so many ways, when in fact, if the proper reforms were made, the pie itself could grow so as to allow more people to enjoy it. I do believe, e.g., that everyone who wants a college education should have an opportunity to get the best one they're capable of attaining, with the costs borne by the state.

But there ARE some things that we can't at present grow more of or successfully scale up, no matter how we reformed our systems. In that case, I think a rational and reasonably humane argument can be made for allocating limited supplies of desirable things based on hopefully-mutually-agreed criteria, such as who actually wants or needs a particular limited good the most, who happens to have the particular talents or whatever that would enable them to make the best use of the limited good, etc.

I'm a fan of Debs, but the particular formulation in the O.P. strikes me as too simplistic.

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Agree or disagree? [View all] True Dough Jan 2025 OP
Hard agree DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2025 #1
That's basic Humanity Jerry2144 Jan 2025 #2
How could anyone disagree? William769 Jan 2025 #3
Those who disagree... GiqueCee Jan 2025 #4
👍 claudette Jan 2025 #5
Trump: "I want every advantage over my fellow man, and if he is weaker than I, all the more reason to destroy him." sop Jan 2025 #6
Exactly. ShazzieB Jan 2025 #37
I think Trump wrote something similar in 'The Art of the Deal.' sop Jan 2025 #43
Debs ran for the presidency while in prison Buzz cook Jan 2025 #7
Good one! keithbvadu2 Jan 2025 #9
Debs got about one million votes while in prison. Shipwack Jan 2025 #38
Agree 100% geardaddy Jan 2025 #8
Agree malaise Jan 2025 #10
Agree. ancianita Jan 2025 #11
Of course seta1950 Jan 2025 #12
Absolutely agree. LoisB Jan 2025 #13
Of course...that's how I was raised...👍 MiHale Jan 2025 #14
Agree. debm55 Jan 2025 #15
Eugene Debbs was way ahead of his time. nt Javaman Jan 2025 #16
Agree Picaro Jan 2025 #17
Debs was a giant. Sailingfish Jan 2025 #18
We are still fighting the battle soldierant Jan 2025 #48
Agree. Magoo48 Jan 2025 #19
Debs is the one felon I agree with on so many fronts - TBF Jan 2025 #20
Life is like an escalator SARose Jan 2025 #21
Absolutely. As Charles Dickens pointed out bronxiteforever Jan 2025 #22
absolutely agree gopiscrap Jan 2025 #23
Agree, and history dcweed Jan 2025 #24
Thumbs up. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2025 #25
Agree... NT bee_peaceful Jan 2025 #26
Agreed Mblaze Jan 2025 #27
Total agreement from Red Kansas...nt wcmagumba Jan 2025 #28
Agree. brush Jan 2025 #29
Definitely agree FoxNewsSucks Jan 2025 #30
That's how I was brought up. To believe that if you are blessed with strength, should use it for helping weaker people Walleye Jan 2025 #31
Yes, agree Wild blueberry Jan 2025 #32
That depends on who this "fellow man" is. A follow-up question: JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2025 #33
Rollingstones Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #36
That's pretty woke rambler_american Jan 2025 #34
Damn rights! True Dough Jan 2025 #46
AGREE!!! Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #35
Every student should learn about him duhneece Jan 2025 #39
Yes Codifer Jan 2025 #40
Every student should learn about Eugene Debs duhneece Jan 2025 #41
Strongly agree....... WestCoastDem42 Jan 2025 #42
Capitalize on taking from the weak, or, Festivito Jan 2025 #44
Patient Mother: "We are put on this Earth to help others." Beartracks Jan 2025 #45
Fully agree! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 2025 #47
Agree. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. patphil Jan 2025 #49
Welcome to 2025, where that would be called "woke" ck4829 Jan 2025 #50
Agreed! I'm even keeping that quote for further use. calimary Jan 2025 #51
Agree stage left Jan 2025 #52
So, e.g., should everyone who wants to make the trip to the Moon snot Jan 2025 #53
Agree. H2O Man Jan 2025 #54
I agree, but Pototan Jan 2025 #55
Basic Human Compassion Baron2024 Jan 2025 #56
My family had a connection with Eugene Debs. summer_in_TX Jan 2025 #57
Absolutely agree gademocrat7 Jan 2025 #58
Yes! Ohioboy Jan 2025 #59
yes! bluboid Jan 2025 #60
Yes! Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #61
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