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Emrys

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9. With Trump at the helm, that might be for the best

Fri Feb 28, 2025, 03:11 PM

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Any scant credibility he believed he had as an honest broker in negotiations just went up in numerous puffs of smoke.

Tomorrow, Zelensky meets up with representatives from Europe in London. I'm sure the heightened solidarity will spill out of the room, and any remaining illusions about the role of Trump and the US under its current leadership will be gone.

My one regret is that they hadn't lined up Kaja Kallas for a visit to the White House tomorrow. She'd have pinned Trump and Vance's ears back.

Trump can't withdraw on his own, BTW. Biden covered that base, and it has to go through Congress.

As a sidelight: the EU has recently offered Zelensky a strategic minerals deal. I'm sure it would be much fairer than anything Trump might cook up, and would involve assurances about future security.

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I'm really starting to fear TSF will withdraw from [View all] bluestarone Friday OP

I am pretty sure he just did lapfog_1 Friday #1

I hope they did, i wouldn't want NATO to share any intel with us. dem4decades Friday #32

Oh, I pretty much expect it. Or something else, equally or even more outrageous. ms liberty Friday #2

I thought you were going to say you feared TSF would withdraw from milestogo Friday #3

I heard him clear as a bell EndlessWire Friday #4

At this rate, Dorothy V Friday #5

NATO can't afford to kick the US out. Dynamic Unicorn Friday #33

That is utter bullshit. harumph Friday #38

In 2024 NATO countries spent approximately 1.5 trillion on defense. Dynamic Unicorn Friday #39

No, NATO is with the other countries by treaty and only the Senate could cancel that. Jacson6 Friday #6

That still sounds like a pretty damn impeachable offense. Volaris Friday #14

Only impeachable if Rs in House & Senate were to grow spines! SheltieLover Friday #15

I was going to respond and then i decided to use my imagination, Volaris Friday #16

I wish I were wrong! SheltieLover Friday #18

EXACTLY. ShazzieB Friday #25

Dunno SheltieLover Friday #27

OMG, thanks! ShazzieB Friday #30

Oh great, impeach Trump and Vance, hello President Johnson. dem4decades Friday #34

That's practically a done deal! BBbats Friday #7

Me, too. I imagine he'll give the greenlight to Putin to level Ukraine, then Europe will get involved, then Vinca Friday #8

With Trump at the helm, that might be for the best Emrys Friday #9

Somewhat true i guess. One thing though, with THIS congress who knows bluestarone Friday #10

It would be an interesting debate. "Good telly." n/t Emrys Friday #11

Given that he said he wants cuts in the military? He'll try, and like his other moves most people likely... Lancero Friday #12

He will pull out soon Johnny2X2X Friday #13

TSF cannot unilaterally pull out of NATO angrychair Friday #17

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Bullshit! bluestarone Friday #20

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Take that Kremlin talking point elsewhere. Efilroft Sul Friday #22

Plan on it cilla4progress Friday #26

I hope he does JustAnotherGen Friday #28

It would just be a formality. Susan Calvin Friday #29

and Kim Jong Un. An d Netanyahu. And bin Salman tishaLA Friday #36

If he stays in NATO it will be only to block Ukraine from being accepted Raven123 Friday #31

We're a rogue nation tishaLA Friday #35

Europe Gears Up for Giant Defense Spending Increase LetMyPeopleVote Friday #37

he soft withdrew. A lot of the damage is already done ecstatic Friday #40