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In reply to the discussion: Can he actually send troops to Greenland and no one will stop him? [View all]snot
(11,598 posts)32. We and our leaders have been acquiescing in executive excesses ever since 9-11;
see, e.g., https://consortiumnews.com/2025/03/28/trumps-rule-by-fiat-a-bipartisan-legacy/ :
After the attacks on the Twin Towers, Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), which gave the executive branch sweeping powers to pursue terrorism around the world. That one document has served as the legal scaffolding for 20-plus years of undeclared wars and covert operations in Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan and elsewhere. No further congressional approval was needed. The public never had a say. The war powers clause of the Constitution became symbolic if not obsolete.
Former President Barack Obama inherited that framework and expanded it. His administration developed the now-infamous drone kill list, justified targeted assassinations (including of U.S. citizens) and defended the governments right to indefinitely detain terrorism suspects without trial. Obama didnt officially suspend habeas corpus, but in practice, he upheld a system that made the writ meaningless for hundreds of detainees held at Bagram and Guantánamo. The position of his Department of Justice was clear: The executive has the authority to detain and kill, beyond judicial oversight, because we are at war.
* * * * *
Trump is now openly talking about eradicating the Houthis in Yemen an aggressive military escalation that directly contradicts the MAGA-era promise of no new foreign wars. ...And once again, no ones talking about congressional approval.
This is the cycle were caught in. Trump exposes the tools others helped create. He strips them of their moral veneer, revealing the ugly core. And rather than confront the system itself, liberals point at Trump as a singular villain as if everything was working just fine before he came along.
The truth is harder to face: If we want to stop the next Trump, or the next expansion of executive lawlessness, we cant keep pretending he came out of nowhere. We need to reckon with the fact that our democracy has been undermined from within.... We need to challenge not just the man, but the machine.
Former President Barack Obama inherited that framework and expanded it. His administration developed the now-infamous drone kill list, justified targeted assassinations (including of U.S. citizens) and defended the governments right to indefinitely detain terrorism suspects without trial. Obama didnt officially suspend habeas corpus, but in practice, he upheld a system that made the writ meaningless for hundreds of detainees held at Bagram and Guantánamo. The position of his Department of Justice was clear: The executive has the authority to detain and kill, beyond judicial oversight, because we are at war.
* * * * *
Trump is now openly talking about eradicating the Houthis in Yemen an aggressive military escalation that directly contradicts the MAGA-era promise of no new foreign wars. ...And once again, no ones talking about congressional approval.
This is the cycle were caught in. Trump exposes the tools others helped create. He strips them of their moral veneer, revealing the ugly core. And rather than confront the system itself, liberals point at Trump as a singular villain as if everything was working just fine before he came along.
The truth is harder to face: If we want to stop the next Trump, or the next expansion of executive lawlessness, we cant keep pretending he came out of nowhere. We need to reckon with the fact that our democracy has been undermined from within.... We need to challenge not just the man, but the machine.
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Can he actually send troops to Greenland and no one will stop him? [View all]
question everything
Mar 2025
OP
NATO crisis--if Denmark requests under Article V, it could be a dramatic showdown--our allies against
hlthe2b
Mar 2025
#3
He constantly say that he wants Greenland whether they want it or not
question everything
Mar 2025
#6
Sadly, when it comes to Trump, we on the Left were not vigilant, but complacent and over confident.
elocs
Mar 2025
#33
The UK joined the war upon Hitler invasion. It did not help Poland at the time but eventually stopped him
question everything
Mar 2025
#42
Oh, I agree. But, what is the Trump/Vance plan for them? More flights to El Salvadore?
Norrrm
Mar 2025
#18
The western world would isolate the United States. Seriously cut back on trade.
unblock
Mar 2025
#12
I would hope that no Commanding General (CG) would obey such a patently illegal order.
TomSlick
Mar 2025
#19
Thank you. Is there anyone at the DoD, or the AG offices still left to render such an alert?
question everything
Mar 2025
#20
Iraq was authorized in Congress and I am afraid that this Congress will do the same
question everything
Mar 2025
#41
Two months ago I would have laughed at the idea of Trump invading Greenland. Today I'm not laughing.
sop
Mar 2025
#29