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paleotn

(21,525 posts)
10. They're not going to pay off. That's fucking lunacy.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 04:43 PM
Apr 2025

Last edited Sun Apr 6, 2025, 05:39 PM - Edit history (2)

Trump isn't "stealing" from other countries. He's stealing from American consumers. THEY are the ones paying the tariffs, not foreign producers or anyone else. To think otherwise at this point is just dumb. Importers pass on the additional costs to retail. No one is going to take that hit to their bottom line. And they don't have to because.......

Domestic producers, if there are any in some industries, will raise their prices too. And why not? Look at what happened to the laundry appliance market during jackass's first term. Domestic producers figured the increase in profits from raising their own prices was worth more than any additional market share gained from being more competitive on price. And the market itself shrank due to overall higher prices, since people simply kept their old washers and dryers longer since new ones were far more dear. With a 25% increase in your foreign competitors prices, why not do some of both? Raise your prices 10%, which is a huge increase in most industries, but you may still be a bit cheaper than your foreign competitor and can grab a bit more of whatever market share is left. At worst, you're just as price competitive as you were pre tariff.

Many industries simply can't be reshored without driving production costs through the roof, and retail prices along with them. Clothing for instance. $50 basic tee shirts anyone? It simply costs a hell of a lot more to make those things in the US, and Canada for that matter, than elsewhere.

These are usually labor intensive industries, where the jobs suck anyway. So why the hell would we want them back? Look at the hell that was US sewing plants even well into the 2nd half of the 20th century. Hard jobs that are hard on workers for crap pay. But even that crap pay is a hell of a lot more than someone in Bangladesh is willing to take. Because the same relative buying power goes further in Bangladesh. Really, the only way to make this successful is to lower US standards of living generally. Oh, that shit is going to go over well. And if you call THAT success, well....

And you think theoretical tax cuts will make up the difference in most American's budgets? That's laughable on its face! In the end, we're all made poorer. Even a lot of relatively rich Americans who's businesses depend on US consumer buying power. That buying power will be crippled.

It's' insanity. Just fucking fence post dumb insanity.

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Tariffs will break us, never fear Easterncedar Apr 2025 #1
True. Nothing good will come from tariffs. ananda Apr 2025 #16
TL DR version: "What if Trump is right?" Prairie Gates Apr 2025 #2
I dont think the tariff plan will work DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2025 #3
Even if there is some modicum of success with the tariffs louis-t Apr 2025 #5
And no matter what they do, cave, reshore, etc., etc., etc., paleotn Apr 2025 #11
This is what Trump is counting on. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2025 #17
We had 4% unemployment. Where are they gonna find louis-t Apr 2025 #4
A lot of those are really awful jobs Americans won't do. paleotn Apr 2025 #12
Nah..Americans will do any job whathehell Apr 2025 #18
And you're willing to pay $15 per lb. for tomatoes. paleotn Apr 2025 #19
What happens edhopper Apr 2025 #6
Some damn good questions. republianmushroom Apr 2025 #7
I suggest that you open a history book GoreWon2000 Apr 2025 #15
No, actually, they're not. paleotn Apr 2025 #21
"We pirates are actually your good friends" will have limited appeal struggle4progress Apr 2025 #8
I seriously doubt his program will work. cloudbase Apr 2025 #9
They're not going to pay off. That's fucking lunacy. paleotn Apr 2025 #10
Nice explanation, thanks! thought crime Apr 2025 #22
"Eventually, the tariff money will come flooding in" VMA131Marine Apr 2025 #13
Not flooding into consumer's pockets. into Trump and his sycophants pockets LiberalLovinLug Apr 2025 #24
History teaches tha tariffs don't work GoreWon2000 Apr 2025 #14
Trump hates us. He does not want Americans to live free and well. delisen Apr 2025 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Apr 2025 #23
The value of this post isn't whether tariffs work or fail misanthrope Apr 2025 #25
The end game is shock the market with threats of tariffs. Then cash in over and over... GreenWave Apr 2025 #26
Rec'd this thread for all of the great responses. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2025 #27
Opposition to the 47 regime is about patriots defending pat_k Apr 2025 #28
We will all die of shock...... Bayard Apr 2025 #29
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