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2016 Postmortem

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Maraya1969

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Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:09 AM Nov 2016

Hillary Clintons early-voting lead in Florida was mathematically insurmountable [View all]

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Rigged election: Hillary Clinton’s early-voting lead in Florida was mathematically insurmountable

(EDIT: I want to add this question, which can't be answered empirically but raises a real question in my mind. What is the statistical probability that about 99% of all the statistical models, most of the polls and the exit polls all predicted a Clinton win yet Trump won? We are looking at a very large statistical anomaly I believe. I don't think that people being embarrassed to admit voting for Trump has that much weight since most polls are taken over the phone and are anonymous)

Of the numerous reasons why most observers on both sides expected Hillary Clinton win the 2016 election heading into Election Day, perhaps the most glaring was the fact that she had seemingly already won the state of Florida based on early-voting alone. It’s why it came as such a shock when Donald Trump somehow pulled off the upset in the state by one percent of the vote, a difference which would have swung the entire election. But in yet another piece of evidence that the voting tallies may have been rigged, a closer examination of the early-voting numbers suggests that Trump’s victory in Florida wasn’t just unlikely – it was mathematically insurmountable.

Here’s what we know about Florida for sure: of the 9.1 million people who voted in the state, roughly seventy percent of them – or 6.6 million people – voted early. The early voters consisted of only slightly more registered Democrats than registered Republicans. However, the most prominent exit poll of Florida early voters showed that 28% of registered Republicans had voted for Hillary Clinton, with just 6% of registered Democrats having voted for Trump. Republican strategist Mike Murphy expressed skepticism that the number could have been that high, but even he pegged it as being closer to the mid-teens.

When you do the math, you see that Hillary Clinton had such a massive early voting lead in her pocket in Florida that – depending on which end of the crossover vote totals you want to lean toward – it turns out Donald Trump would have needed to get somewhere between 59% and 71% of the Election Day voting in the state in order to catch up. Here’s the breakdown, based on numbers available from the state of Florida’s official early vote tallies:


http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/rigged-election-hillary-clintons-early-voting-lead-florida-mathematically-insurmountable/114/






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I just recall on election night that Hillary was leading in FL by 300K something votes, ... iluvtennis Nov 2016 #1
No surprise there! GWC58 Nov 2016 #2
Like in 2000 when FL and the presidency was called for Al Gore by most news agencies Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #13
Similarly triron Nov 2016 #20
I was surprised at the same thing in North Carolina: Hillary up 150,000 votes mnhtnbb Nov 2016 #3
yup, doesn't pass the smell test iluvtennis Nov 2016 #19
Election Integrity2020 sagesnow Nov 2016 #4
What they are calling an "exit poll" was actually a phone/on-line poll of LisaL Nov 2016 #5
Thanks hueymahl Nov 2016 #12
What is the statistical probability that 98% of statistical models and all of the exit polls Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #14
Who is "they"? triron Nov 2016 #17
538, Princeton Consortium, The BETTING sites, All of the early voting that had Hillary Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #21
My post was directed at another DUer. triron Nov 2016 #22
I still think a recount in FL would help. Ligyron Nov 2016 #6
Interesting that they certified it before all states were done counting! Remember 2000? Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #15
Do the math Russian-Republican skullduggery Achilleaze Nov 2016 #7
This. Nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #9
November 1, at DU: Nate Silver moved Florida (and North Carolina) to Trump... mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2016 #8
311 voters? B2G Nov 2016 #10
Basing a claim of a mathematical impossibility on exit polls mythology Nov 2016 #11
No. Combine the exit polls with all the statistical models and you get a situation Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #16
knr triron Nov 2016 #18
knr triron Nov 2016 #23
knr triron Nov 2016 #24
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