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2016 Postmortem

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boston bean

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Thu Dec 1, 2016, 06:43 PM Dec 2016

If this is true, something is really stinking to high heaven H gets 23,700 votes back in PA. [View all]


With a recount effort now underway in the three razor-tight swing states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, it turns out Hillary Clinton has already moved closer to winning those states than had originally been announced. In the past two weeks Michigan and Wisconsin have both voluntarily revised the size of Donald Trump’s “win” downward by thousands of votes each. And now Pennsylvania has shrunk the size of Trump’s win by tens of thousands of votes.


It’s important to understand that these revisions have been made by the states before the recounts even got underway. These shifts in the vote totals have been based on precincts revising their own numbers, either because they caught errors of their own accord, or in some instances because internet gawkers spotted numerical impossibilities that forced those precincts to check themselves. But the sudden shift in Pennsylvania voting totals is dramatic, in that it wipes out around one-third of Trump’s lead in the state ahead of the recount.

Here’s what happened: according to this USA Today article and several other sources, the vote totals in Pennsylvania had Donald Trump winning by 70,638 votes – a number which was often quoted as a reason for why Hillary Clinton would supposedly have no chance of flipping the state in a recount. But earlier today, the respected Decision Desk HQ posted the newly revised totals from Pennsylvania, which have Donald Trump ahead by just 46,938 votes. That means Trump’s lead in the state has now shrunk by 23,700 votes, based on what it says are newly revised numbers out of Philadelphia.


http://www.palmerreport.com/news/hillary-clinton-catches-20000-votes-pennsylvania-recount-begins/305/
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From what I've seen these were "provisional" ballots that were finally counted and added jonno99 Dec 2016 #1
I read the same thing SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #2
this, its not unusual to have numbers change. and Provisional ballots and absentees usually lean D Amishman Dec 2016 #4
Greg Palast said election officials dump most of the provisional votes Kolesar Dec 2016 #8
Clearly, we are going to need to push through legislation, if we ever get Congress back, Ken Burch Dec 2016 #11
He said the same thing about California during the primaries. I don't know how other states do it still_one Dec 2016 #12
In Virginia SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #17
of course adequate checks are done to insure double voting isn't occurring, the person still_one Dec 2016 #19
Agree SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #20
Why were these states called? mcar Dec 2016 #3
because the number of votes outstanding was not enough to come close to swinging the election Amishman Dec 2016 #5
ALL states do this.... texasmomof3 Dec 2016 #6
If a recount in any of the three states humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #7
it should undermine it Skittles Dec 2016 #9
Agreed... ificandream Dec 2016 #10
I just can't imagine humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #18
Trump's supporters are fanatical and conspiratorial, radius777 Dec 2016 #37
This (DU won't let me add carats) spooky3 Dec 2016 #27
"Toned down," rather than "spiffed up," thankfully. maddiemom Dec 2016 #32
Exactly, it is already undermined, the election was a sham, radius777 Dec 2016 #38
This Is Basically The Electoral Equivalent of The Olympic Committee Announcing TrollBuster9090 Dec 2016 #13
Remember Beverly and black box voting? Keith Olbermann, only voice in the media - 2004. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2016 #14
I have to say, if the situations were exactly reversed, and it was Trump calling for a recount -- byronius Dec 2016 #15
Turns out exit polls were pretty much acurate, and trump won in states they said he would. jmg257 Dec 2016 #16
"Turns out"?? The recounts have not been done yet. spooky3 Dec 2016 #28
I know the recounts haven't been finsihed; it is the exit polls are pretty much on. nt jmg257 Dec 2016 #29
Unless you assume that the recounts will NOT spooky3 Dec 2016 #34
Indeed - I am making that assumption, due to lack of evidence of another alternative. jmg257 Dec 2016 #36
My point is that you can be wishful or not, but spooky3 Dec 2016 #39
They certainly were suspicious - or not. jmg257 Dec 2016 #40
Someone covering or trying to cover their tracks. ffr Dec 2016 #21
My gut feeling is she won all three states outright. duffyduff Dec 2016 #22
I agree with you womanofthehills Dec 2016 #35
Isn't statistically odd for all these error corrections to be in Clinton's favor? tandem5 Dec 2016 #23
definitely. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #24
The PA adjustment is not odd Amishman Dec 2016 #31
Someone is covering their back.......... UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #25
+ 1,000 Achilleaze Dec 2016 #26
How the fuck can an election be called when all this vote counting shit happens? BSdetect Dec 2016 #30
Dirty Secret is many MILLIONS of votes uncounted even weeks after election Land Shark Dec 2016 #33
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