2016 Postmortem

kacekwl

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100. IMOP people who voted for trump were voting

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 08:54 PM

Dec 2016

against Hillary . Right or wrong she was portrayed by the media and the opposition as a liar , criminal , wall street friend etc. Bernie was running for president and indeed brought up the reasons you should vote for him. I don't believe he called her a liar or criminal but someone who was out of touch with the majority of America. EVERY person I asked why they wouldn't vote for Hillary said "because she is a liar" every one. To blame this on Bernie is nonsense. Blame the media , right wing and Fox talking heads , Trump or Hillary herself but not Bernie. I voted for and supported Bernie and in the end voted for Hillary in large part so trump would never see the White House although she shifted to more of a platform I could get behind after the primary. If you want an apology get one from the 40% who couldn't bring themselves to vote because I've got way to much to lose from this businessman as the president. Bernie was who inspired me and gave me hope I might have a chance to be more than one weeks pay from homelessness or bankruptcy. Not so much with Hillary. By the way voted DEMOCRATIC every election since 1974.

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Its Time for Bernie Sanders to Apologize to his Supporters, and to President Obama [View all] boston bean Dec 2016 OP

It's past time. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #1

IMOP people who voted for trump were voting kacekwl Dec 2016 #100

Yes ..agreed..Plus INdemo Dec 2016 #232

WTF! Total BS!! Bernie was the only true Progressive... RiverStone Dec 2016 #130

The only reason Hillary was close is she adopted much of Bernie's platform! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #133

Ah, the white man as savior meme. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #219

Down is up. zonkers Dec 2016 #252

This message was self-deleted by its author TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #210

Just to be sure: "Disillusioned refuse" is being used to describe... Beartracks Dec 2016 #2

Worthless, useless, trash, garbage... isn't that delightful? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #65

"Like something Trump would say..." Beartracks Dec 2016 #253

Attacking the electorate. It's the new strategy for winning elections. n/t Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #173

If anyone owes an apology - vkkv Dec 2016 #3

Agreed-Sanders needs to apologize Gothmog Dec 2016 #4

He HAD to run. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #249

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #5

Well there's about 30 bashing Hillary and her supporters so ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #12

It doesn't matter to these posters. MelissaB Dec 2016 #31

Yeah I think it is Bernie's fault ...I will never forgive him. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #181

Oh, boy. MelissaB Dec 2016 #239

For some, it's more important that he doesn't have... Beartracks Dec 2016 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #39

Truth. MelissaB Dec 2016 #44

If his " policies, priorities, and values" aligned with us... scscholar Dec 2016 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #89

Many of mine are too, but I remain Unaffiliated. bekkilyn Dec 2016 #159

Truth! chwaliszewski Dec 2016 #113

Speaking truth. Bohunk68 Dec 2016 #180

Team Hillary Jake Stern Dec 2016 #88

Yep, pretty much. n/t QC Dec 2016 #52

yes, that is what this party has disintegrated to elmac Dec 2016 #108

Amen ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #6

God, not another one !!! pangaia Dec 2016 #8

Let the op work through the grief. NWCorona Dec 2016 #24

Ok i will try. pangaia Dec 2016 #28

No problem NWCorona Dec 2016 #30

By mudslinging? JudyM Dec 2016 #46

I don't agree with it. But some people work through things differently NWCorona Dec 2016 #53

By embracing a piece in which voters are called "disillusioned refuse"? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #69

Amen, and amen! paleotn Dec 2016 #141

NEVER the candidate. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #171

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #29

Indeed. potone Dec 2016 #101

And what is this election for you? murielm99 Dec 2016 #158

For me the election is a disaster... potone Dec 2016 #251

Bernie was part of the problem. murielm99 Dec 2016 #257

It is just more daggers thrown. boston bean Dec 2016 #261

The only thing that you wrote that I agree with... potone Dec 2016 #262

Amen Me. Dec 2016 #9

He doesn't need to apologize for anything. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #10

Agreed. nt babylonsister Dec 2016 #19

I second your agreement x 100! RiverStone Dec 2016 #129

Word. reflection Dec 2016 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #41

You're exactly right. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #59

Damn right... pangaia Dec 2016 #105

Damn right. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #109

Absolutely NOTHING to apologize for! nt Raine Dec 2016 #123

Obama should also apologize for beating Hillary. hollowdweller Dec 2016 #265

This. nt Laffy Kat Dec 2016 #155

Some people were peeved that there was anything beyond a perfunctory, just-for-show primary Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #166

Strongly agree. eom saltpoint Dec 2016 #254

There was so much distrust for Hillary to begin with democrattotheend Dec 2016 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #16

It mattered in terms of the narrative democrattotheend Dec 2016 #18

Republicans don't care about mandates. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #80

I did the same thing. MelissaB Dec 2016 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #36

Yep! And they're still saying it. MelissaB Dec 2016 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #42

I never know if "traitors" includes us or not democrattotheend Dec 2016 #156

Bernie is not a traitor. Bernie backed Hillary in the end. musicblind Dec 2016 #178

By the time Bernie backed Hillary after refusing to concede. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #182

My California vote felt more like a good luck charm than a real vote, too Dems to Win Dec 2016 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #153

Exactly.... vi5 Dec 2016 #73

Bernie fanned it, and helped the flames grow. He could have been on her side, pnwmom Dec 2016 #91

Hillary did the same thing in 2008 democrattotheend Dec 2016 #157

Wrong. She endorsed Obama well before the convention, unlike Bernie, pnwmom Dec 2016 #170

She could have been on his side Devil Child Dec 2016 #174

No, it doesn't work both ways. She was millions of primary voters and hundreds of pledged pnwmom Dec 2016 #176

why the hell should the winner of the primary drop out and support Bernie Sanders? Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #183

This is mostly fiction JonLP24 Dec 2016 #13

It's reality. We all saw him excoriate Clinton for months on end, long after R B Garr Dec 2016 #25

You don't believe special interests corrupt JonLP24 Dec 2016 #26

Oh and who did Trump select? Goldman Sachs... so much better...sarcasm Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #184

I voted for Hillary Clinton JonLP24 Dec 2016 #188

So did I but Bernie basically calling her Goldman's girl hurt her in the general. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #231

Bernie benifited from the system he claims to be against. He used the Democratic R B Garr Dec 2016 #191

No, we didn't all see that Nevernose Dec 2016 #127

It's a shame to see Democrats falling into the unreality sinkhole like the Fox watchers. R B Garr Dec 2016 #192

Excoriate? progressoid Dec 2016 #162

Sanders tore Clinton and the Democratic party down. It was the ethos of his R B Garr Dec 2016 #193

Sanders was just a more likable version of John Edwards. progressoid Dec 2016 #221

Sanders wasn't likeable for the majority, as was evidenced by the voting. R B Garr Dec 2016 #226

People keep bitching about him not being a Democrat and using the Party for his own gain. progressoid Dec 2016 #229

He wouldn't have gotten that far as an Independent. That's probably why he R B Garr Dec 2016 #230

Riiiight. Wouldn't have gotten far. progressoid Dec 2016 #234

He obviously knew he had to hitch his star to something else or he would R B Garr Dec 2016 #235

Obviously. progressoid Dec 2016 #236

Reverse that DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #172

This was just alerted on. DURHAM D Dec 2016 #14

Good. This OP is offensive and divisive. MelissaB Dec 2016 #37

I think Sanders, particularly his supporters, have a lot to do with Trump winning, but it's time to Hoyt Dec 2016 #15

Bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #21

I was going to say the same thing renate Dec 2016 #95

Yup, actually I was going to say fuck this shit! nt Raine Dec 2016 #177

It's time for Trump supporters to apologize to the US and the world. CousinIT Dec 2016 #20

A very good example of a "Fake News Site" FreakinDJ Dec 2016 #22

Feel better now? Another hour, another anti-Bernie, anti-Bernie-supporters post. democrank Dec 2016 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #35

Amen! This is backward thinking, gettting nobody nowhere. Dr. Mullion Blasto Dec 2016 #67

With the popular vote count as it is.The premise of your post is invalid NWCorona Dec 2016 #27

toi toi pangaia Dec 2016 #32

I'm alerting this. HassleCat Dec 2016 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #47

I know but I feel duty bound HassleCat Dec 2016 #51

It's always somebody else's fault. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #45

It probably is time for an apology from Bernie FBaggins Dec 2016 #48

Yep, he needed to get visible quicker. Folks didn't start "getting" him until well after Super Tues JudyM Dec 2016 #58

Fuck that. If the DNC had been smart and not tried to put Sanders and the things he was fighting for JCanete Dec 2016 #245

Hey boston.. your link doesn't work.. Cha Dec 2016 #49

If anyone should be apologizing for not playing by the rules it's... oh never mind... JudyM Dec 2016 #50

That is so misleading because Sanders never ever "said essentially the same thing as Trump" mtnsnake Dec 2016 #54

Trump actually used Bernies words...so that is not true. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #185

That is totally different. Trump stole criticisms that were effective, but the two were not selling JCanete Dec 2016 #246

And McCain stole lines from Hillary in 2008 to use against Obama. Exilednight Dec 2016 #271

check who I was responding to and in what context. Demsrule was trying to say JCanete Dec 2016 #272

I don't see that at all Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #55

Think about how weak you are making HRC appear NeoConsSuck Dec 2016 #56

You should read this. It contains excellent advice. QC Dec 2016 #57

Perfect! MelissaB Dec 2016 #60

This is hilarious ybbor Dec 2016 #66

LOL! SMC22307 Dec 2016 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #87

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #103

Caucases with the Dems, just like Angus King did. paleotn Dec 2016 #143

Bernie is not a Democrat and King did not run in the Democratic Pary and cost us the election Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #187

Hmm, seems the OP is headed for a flame-out. Barack_America Dec 2016 #223

No chance. Some people here are strangely bulletproof. n/t QC Dec 2016 #224

Stick to film/awards discussion, Sasha. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #61

the bitterness of those who ignored all the signs that HRC was not the candidate... mike_c Dec 2016 #62

it's stunning Locrian Dec 2016 #83

Hear hear! I agree with you wholeheartedly, except on one point - we didn't lose big. EffieBlack Dec 2016 #63

You're running out of straws to grasp. Exilednight Dec 2016 #64

What a bunch of bullshit budkin Dec 2016 #68

DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2016 #70

Al Giordano's long thread on all of the above! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #71

Mahalo, Madam45! Cha Dec 2016 #74

Did you read the AG's thread? Has 16 lines. Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #75

No, not sure what you mean?.. Cha Dec 2016 #79

Thank you! Cha Dec 2016 #81

And he links to an article that reiterates what is said in the OP. lapucelle Dec 2016 #82

Yep! From yesterday! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #84

"We needed all hands on deck to pull out a win and we got exactly the opposite from our own side of Cha Dec 2016 #72

It will be interesting to see what the Democrats do in Vermont in 2018. lapucelle Dec 2016 #77

LOL! He will crush anyone. He has an extremely high favor ability rating!! nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #104

Not if the Democrats don't allow him to run unopposed as a Democrat. lapucelle Dec 2016 #112

He is a safe seat. Better to invest in other senate seats, don't you think? Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #114

Having a Democrat in the seat is my primary objective. lapucelle Dec 2016 #117

I don't think you would be hired as a democratic strategist. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #120

Well bless your heart. lapucelle Dec 2016 #198

Thank you for your leadership. Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #200

I made no contribution to the defeat of Democrats. lapucelle Dec 2016 #205

A REAL Democrat is more likely to vote with Republicans than Bernie is. immoderate Dec 2016 #131

Real Democrats are the people who worked, turned out the vote, and voted lapucelle Dec 2016 #194

Yes. But they can define who democrats are. immoderate Dec 2016 #199

Glad that we agree that Democrats define the membership. lapucelle Dec 2016 #201

Wasn't that from before when he became a lobbyist? immoderate Dec 2016 #204

You don't know much about this stuff, do you. lapucelle Dec 2016 #207

Having ignore as a friend would be fitting. immoderate Dec 2016 #208

I wouldn't put such a boneheaded move past the Party leadership, just look TransitJohn Dec 2016 #161

I'm sure that they will not make the same mistakes that they have made in the past. lapucelle Dec 2016 #195

And further restriction of participation would be their MO. TransitJohn Dec 2016 #209

There are no restrictions on membership in the Democratic party. lapucelle Dec 2016 #211

What the country earned was the harvest of running two people most of the country disliked. TransitJohn Dec 2016 #212

It's amazing the amount of damage that can be done by bad actors lapucelle Dec 2016 #214

How's the weather up on that cross? TransitJohn Dec 2016 #216

Backed into a corner, the town wag employs tasteless humor and fails lapucelle Dec 2016 #218

Sanders' seat is safe. eom saltpoint Dec 2016 #255

Kick! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #78

I am so tired of this shit. nt redwitch Dec 2016 #86

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #90

Sweet. George II Dec 2016 #92

The author makes her points well. Thank you. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #93

Never TSIAS Dec 2016 #94

Yes - Bernie's stances on the issues and consistency thereof totally suck!!! Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #96

This incessant Bernie bashing is like a favorite past time around here... LS_Editor Dec 2016 #97

It's time for you to let it go n/t n2doc Dec 2016 #98

Absurd post dembotoz Dec 2016 #99

No one got that memo, and there WAS a primary, and Clinton won decisively. And no one.... George II Dec 2016 #125

And the rest is history. paleotn Dec 2016 #140

There were several "viable candidates" in the race, all of whom were Democrats. George II Dec 2016 #145

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #102

Hillary cost Hillary the White House. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #122

No. GoCubsGo Dec 2016 #124

Oh, just stop it. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #126

1 jack_krass Dec 2016 #137

Oh, by all means, its all Bernies fault elmac Dec 2016 #106

I need an apology from randr Dec 2016 #107

Jesus H Christ. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #110

Trump's rivals called him a 'con artist' (Marco Rubio) and a 'pathological liar' (Ted Cruz). Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #111

that's only because nobody listens to little marco or ly'in ted NRQ891 Dec 2016 #148

What nonsense. zentrum Dec 2016 #115

Damn him! Wabbajack_ Dec 2016 #116

WORST. OP. EVER. Martin Eden Dec 2016 #118

Maybe that's the point? To foment anger between us again adigal Dec 2016 #136

you're insulting Clinton shireen Dec 2016 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #121

He owes no one an apology. nt LostOne4Ever Dec 2016 #128

Now that's one of the most stupendous... paleotn Dec 2016 #132

lmao! opiate69 Dec 2016 #217

Would you like an apology from all 13 million Bernie primary voters, too? aikoaiko Dec 2016 #134

North Carolina, Whiskeytown Ryan Adams? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #168

Jesus Fricking Christ - can this stop please??? adigal Dec 2016 #135

I poop on this article jack_krass Dec 2016 #138

You deserve a cigar for that. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #164

My biggest UNREC in almost 15 years on DU. ThoughtCriminal Dec 2016 #139

What's the normal length of time for stage 1? egduj Dec 2016 #142

Very good question. n/t paleotn Dec 2016 #144

Was denial skipped? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #165

What phase are you in from Bernie's primary loss? R B Garr Dec 2016 #220

Are you kidding? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #263

You keep gloating, so it came across R B Garr Dec 2016 #264

Maybe it's the Pollyanna in me, but... RealityChik Dec 2016 #146

Enemies List eq Enemies List + Millenials + White Working Class + Bernie Supporters NRQ891 Dec 2016 #147

well at least you're consistent. JHan Dec 2016 #149

? NRQ891 Dec 2016 #150

'So sorry for standing up for what USED TO BE Democratic party values' BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #151

I was scolded on these pages when I expressed a similar opinion question everything Dec 2016 #154

Un fucking believable. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #189

Who is to blame for Trump Winning? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #160

"We needed all hands on deck to pull out a win and we got exactly the opposite" PREACH!!! BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Dec 2016 #167

The all too predictable Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #169

GOP loves this shit Devil Child Dec 2016 #175

It's heresy to suggest that there were any significant mistakes made. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #190

it's insane not to look for your own team's mistakes NRQ891 Dec 2016 #197

The operation was a smashing success. It's the patient's fault QC Dec 2016 #225

I never thought I'd ever see this level of denial on DU. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #237

It's a consequence of the fan mentality that took over this site QC Dec 2016 #238

Amen n/t Devil Child Dec 2016 #242

When pointed out that it was actually Lena Turner who fanned the mfcorey1 Dec 2016 #179

You can thank 3rd way for President Trump jfern Dec 2016 #186

You can thank your ridiculous rhetoric for repelling people who might have supported Sanders. Buzz Clik Dec 2016 #203

3rd way is a proven loser, it's time to go progressive jfern Dec 2016 #241

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Dec 2016 #243

This is counter-productive. dawg Dec 2016 #196

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Dec 2016 #202

hehe, yeah, they must all be really dicks. Maybe they even said "fuck all hillary supporters" JCanete Dec 2016 #247

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Dec 2016 #250

at the time I came back into these boards there was a lot of nastiness to go around. Which JCanete Dec 2016 #256

K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #206

Oh please.... Blame it on Bernie Continues? INdemo Dec 2016 #213

Bernie had lost the primary early on. There was no path to victory for him, R B Garr Dec 2016 #222

No he doesn't... lastone Dec 2016 #215

You want a shovel or a whip? HassleCat Dec 2016 #227

Simply put Else You Are Mad Dec 2016 #228

I hate Sanders liquid diamond Dec 2016 #233

Geez let it go. Buzz cook Dec 2016 #240

This is all total bullshit and bad for this board, but for whatever reasons you have JCanete Dec 2016 #244

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2016 #248

Not just no, but hell no. alarimer Dec 2016 #258

Bernie is clueless on a lot of things and his campaign was myopic in many ways forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #259

If he couldn't be president, then neither could she. I hope he's happy. grossproffit Dec 2016 #260

Looks like the needle got stuck. jalan48 Dec 2016 #266

what it is time for is to put down the Crack pipe and pull heads out of asses. TheKentuckian Dec 2016 #267

Yep. Rec. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #268

I think we should have a daily 'Two Minutes Apology' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #269

Clinton's campaign owes an apology for Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #270