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Hortensis

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15. For sure! But that election was stolen using many means.

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

Mar 2020

True investigation has been blocked. But, emember, Hillary was way ahead of Trump for most of 2 years, Trump himself expecting to lose right up until election night, until autumn 2016 when things went very weird. Like never before. Or since until Iowa.

It is scary and appalling how many people seem to be vulnerable to manipulation by sophisticated mind-fucking techniques aimed specifically at them, then and now, on top of other means of election theft. But I don't believe millions of Americans who said they intended to vote for Hillary and against Trump in poll after poll for two years actually voted their own intent, any more than majorities in Germany and most other nations that fell to the Nazis actually chose them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If I were Joe, tonight I would stress the "who can get things actually DONE?" theme.. [View all] CTyankee Mar 2020 OP

like who could get Amazon to agree to $15 an hour? Apollo Zeus Mar 2020 #1

did Obama do that? CTyankee Mar 2020 #2

That was the Fight for Fifteen movement. betsuni Mar 2020 #5

They had to give up a lot to get that $15, that they would have Kahuna7 Mar 2020 #7

His talk the other night was magnificent in its clarity... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #3

Oh, I missed it! Do you have a link? CTyankee Mar 2020 #4

all joe has to say: "Its one thing to have the BIG TALK and another to actually accomplish anything" beachbumbob Mar 2020 #6

If I were Bernie RazBerryBeret Mar 2020 #8

That's why I'm ridin with Biden IronLionZion Mar 2020 #9

Joe already knows the key people to get things done. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #10

Yes. A 100 things a president should know before being briefed Hortensis Mar 2020 #11

Yep. I love the aspirational voice I have heard from Bernie and his devotees and we NEED that CTyankee Mar 2020 #12

It's far clearer and more real in Biden. Hortensis Mar 2020 #13

Yes, we do. However, I was totally horrified when Trump won in 2016, that our aspirational goals CTyankee Mar 2020 #14

For sure! But that election was stolen using many means. Hortensis Mar 2020 #15